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1/18/2017 10:40:22 PM
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The darkness isn't an object or an entity. It is a concept that eventually the universe will run out of light and be completely extinguished. Complete darkness. If you've played Bungie's earlier games like Marathon it follows the same plot essentially. Durandal, the main antagonist of Marathon's story, wanted to escape the closure of the universe, I.e. The darkness.
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Edited by Aulakauss: 3/4/2017 9:31:30 PMSo, what you're proposing is that the Darkness is a sort of.. anthropomorphization of the heat death at the end of everything. The 'death' of the 'light' at the end of all. That's a fascinating theory. The Darkness vs Light thing being just a metaphor for what every living thing does: rail against the end of itself.
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But it has a name, and Rasputin describes it as a very physical entity. [quote]Event footprint includes sterile neutrino scattering and gravity waves. Omnibus analysis detects deep structure information content (nine sigma) and internal teleonomy.[/quote][quote] IT smiled at me before before IT devoured the blossoms with black flame and pinned their names across the sky [/quote] I wouldn't exactly call this thing "philosophy"
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He's using anthropomorphic descriptions because he cannot relate it to anything. When trying to describe footprints he uses neutrino scattering and gravity waves. For a physical description he uses black flame devouring and then putting names across the sky. It's clear by the description IT does not have a "physical" form that even a powerful AI warmind can understand..
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OK. Let's say everything I just said is completely irrelevant. Let's assume Rasputin's records are just nonsense. What knocked out our golden age? If not the the Queen of final shapes, then what?
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I have no idea. I just believe it was something more then just a "physical force". Maybe we will find out more in D2. I just wished more of the lore and grimoire was inside the game.
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Doubt a concept of the universe could enter the solar system, kill billions of humans, and destroy warminds. Perhaps an entity that follows that concept but definitely something tangible nonetheless.
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Just because IT has a name doesn't make it an object, person, or an entity. Just the way Rasputin describes it means it's something way beyond that. By the way, Rasputin shares almost every characteristic of Durandal.
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Edited by Fal Chavam: 1/19/2017 1:59:33 AMIt was creating gravity waves...
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Read the grimoire card "The Darkness". Everyone from the Nine to Saint-14 have an opinion on what the darkness is. Every single one of their descriptions is completely different from the other.
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Ghost fragment: darkness, is a record straight from Rasputin. There's no opinion there, just a record. He states that it is a very tangible thing, and flags it as acasual. He then takes control of the system's defences to fight it.
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Unfortunately that does not give clear evidence to what it is exactly.
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Ghost fragment: [u]Darkness[/u]
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I know, that card specifically points to the idea that the darkness is not a "thing". Rasputin apparently was the only one to see IT, and survive IT. For some odd reason in his records he cannot give an accurate description, which is odd.
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Edited by Fal Chavam: 1/19/2017 2:45:49 AMEveryone in the collapse saw the Darkness. But the Darkness wiped most of those people. The warminds tried to fight it. Rasputin knew it was too power to fight, so he hid. That is the reason he is the only one who still has an accurate record of the darkness. As to why he doesn't give a detailed description, it's probably because the physical description isn't the topic focus. His focus is more on it's power and the things it has done.
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You're stretching. And I think something that wiped out EVERYONE would be given a thorough analysis, including underwear size and favorite place to drink coffee.
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Not when it wipes out a solar system spanning civilization in a flash. How can you record what doesn't give you time to record? It won't sit still, it can't be contained, and it's one sole purpose is to destroy everything.
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So, going off that statement then Rasputin never had a chance to see IT at all. Therefore, he would not know what IT is.
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He fought it. Ghost fragment: mysteries. He fought it with very powerful weapons. He didn't even scratch it, so he hid.
