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6/1/2010 10:46:54 PM
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origin of the flood
when i was looking through the posts about the flood being in halo reach i instantly dissmissed it.
But then a came a cross a loop hole in the canon
in halo wars (yes halo wars) you fight the flood and its before the cheif is even on instalation 05 so are the flood realy exempt from halo reach
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Anoson Doing that would make the forerunners look stupid. Why the hell would you start putting your greatest enemy and a galactic threat everywhere willy-nilly?[/quote] coz its fun and there a cool enemy to fight and should at least appear in firefight
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Doing that would make the forerunners look stupid. Why the hell would you start putting your greatest enemy and a galactic threat everywhere willy-nilly?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GINGERSAURUS when i was looking through the posts about the flood being in halo reach i instantly dissmissed it. But then a came a cross a loop hole in the canon in halo wars (yes halo wars) you fight the flood and its before the cheif is even on instalation 05 so are the flood realy exempt from halo reach[/quote] The Flood were around long before Master Chief was born.... The Flood was around when the Forerunners were alive.
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The only thing I can honestly see the Flood involved in with Reach is Firefight.
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reach is before halo 1 so even i agree that flood logically shouldn't be in the game but definently agreee with the flood infection mode that would be sweet and dramatic
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there was absolutly no way ODST could of had flood its between halo 2-3 its more than half way through 3 they arrive get your facts straight before flamming
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xAT 117x every main stream halo game has had a big flood aspect to it, and i do not see why in their very last halo game they would not include the flood in it. [/quote] Because this story doesn't involve the flood, it is about when the covenant and humans were at their strongest. The flood have no role in this story at all nor would bungie do something to piss a crap load of their fans off. It would have been more plausible for ODST to have flood in but it didn't, and bungie as said reach will be very similar to ODST. Meaning a story from a group based on 1 event.
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every main stream halo game has had a big flood aspect to it, and i do not see why in their very last halo game they would not include the flood in it. I hope if it is in however that they just do simple Halo CE flood. not the silly Halo 3 flood. what is with the Flood Tanks? theyre rubbish. so if they are in it better be standard simple flood which was awesome.!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Methew [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GINGERSAURUS when i was looking through the posts about the flood being in halo reach i instantly dissmissed it. But then a came a cross a loop hole in the canon in halo wars (yes halo wars) you fight the flood and its before the cheif is even on instalation 05 so are the flood realy exempt from halo reach[/quote] There's no good reason for them to be on Reach. Canonwise or gameplay wise.[/quote] Other than the fact the flood had no involvement for reach's fall. Besides that little detail you are correct.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RadioTubeClock [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Methew [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GINGERSAURUS when i was looking through the posts about the flood being in halo reach i instantly dissmissed it. But then a came a cross a loop hole in the canon in halo wars (yes halo wars) you fight the flood and its before the cheif is even on instalation 05 so are the flood realy exempt from halo reach[/quote] There's no good reason for them to be on Reach. Canonwise or gameplay wise.[/quote] 3 ways[/quote] I love them, especially when I'm involved. [Edited on 06.08.2010 2:12 AM PDT]
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Here you go sir [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere]Dyson Sphere[/url]
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be in reach you parasitic dream enemy plz
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XMadIrishmanX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XMadIrishmanX Ipso facto, Onyx was still designed to keep the Forerunners safe. By the way. Does anyone know, or can picture how the hell the Dyson sphere works? I've read the book 5 times over and can never get that part. [/quote] Onyx (the planet) wasn't designed to protect the Forerunners - the outer shell was a fortress to defend the Core Room Antechamber portal that houses the portal to the Dyson Sphere - the shield. A Dyson Sphere exists in slipspace because the Halo Array cannot affect that region.[/quote] OKay so lets get this straight. Is the When you are in the dyson sphere, are you inside the "planet" and facing towards the "core"[/quote] Hmm, it's possible. Halo Wars poorly visualised this concept. The planet (Onyx) is a different entity to the Dyson Sphere. Onyx is tiny compared to the DS, which is 300 million kilometers in diameter on the inside. However, when viewed from normal space it would be miniscule. To answer your question, I think we should think on what Linda said. She contrasted being inside the Dyson Sphere to [i]"being in the bottom of a large bowl"[/i]. We can imagine how that is and it is certainly similar to how it is presented in Halo Wars.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Go Vader [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] everywhere116 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Go Vader [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] manwith [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben MCCrash yes but the spirit of fire never made it back to the unsc to report whta they saw[/quote] But Noble Team managed to made it? If the Flood were to show on Reach it wouldn't matter to the UNSC anyway, because the Flood would be getting glassed along with the planet anyway.[/quote] But then that is just a way to shoehorn in the Flood without it making any difference to the story, it's insulting to those who love the Halo canon.[/quote] This is what Halo Wars did with the Flood, IMO. Think about it, in every Halo game, the Flood had a purpose in the plot. In HW, the flood were just there, for no purpose. Sure, they were enemies in a few missions, but they could just as easily have been Covenant and posed no new threat to the Spirit of Fire in any way.[/quote] Except in Reach they would have even less of a purpose. This is the definitive Human vs Covenant battle next to Earth.[/quote] You don't know that. Nobody actually does, yet. Needless to remind the Battle of Earth had Flood too.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GINGERSAURUS when i was looking through the posts about the flood being in halo reach i instantly dissmissed it. But then a came a cross a loop hole in the canon in halo wars (yes halo wars) you fight the flood and its before the cheif is even on instalation 05 so are the flood realy exempt from halo reach[/quote] You mean Installation 04?... That was visited before 05. [Edited on 06.01.2010 4:49 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XMadIrishmanX Ipso facto, Onyx was still designed to keep the Forerunners safe. By the way. Does anyone know, or can picture how the hell the Dyson sphere works? I've read the book 5 times over and can never get that part. [/quote] Onyx (the planet) wasn't designed to protect the Forerunners - the outer shell was a fortress to defend the Core Room Antechamber portal that houses the portal to the Dyson Sphere - the shield. A Dyson Sphere exists in slipspace because the Halo Array cannot affect that region.[/quote] OKay so lets get this straight. Is the When you are in the dyson sphere, are you inside the "planet" and facing towards the "core"
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] everywhere116 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Go Vader [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] manwith [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben MCCrash yes but the spirit of fire never made it back to the unsc to report whta they saw[/quote] But Noble Team managed to made it? If the Flood were to show on Reach it wouldn't matter to the UNSC anyway, because the Flood would be getting glassed along with the planet anyway.[/quote] But then that is just a way to shoehorn in the Flood without it making any difference to the story, it's insulting to those who love the Halo canon.[/quote] This is what Halo Wars did with the Flood, IMO. Think about it, in every Halo game, the Flood had a purpose in the plot. In HW, the flood were just there, for no purpose. Sure, they were enemies in a few missions, but they could just as easily have been Covenant and posed no new threat to the Spirit of Fire in any way.[/quote] Except in Reach they would have even less of a purpose. This is the definitive Human vs Covenant battle next to Earth.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Go Vader [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] manwith [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben MCCrash yes but the spirit of fire never made it back to the unsc to report whta they saw[/quote] But Noble Team managed to made it? If the Flood were to show on Reach it wouldn't matter to the UNSC anyway, because the Flood would be getting glassed along with the planet anyway.[/quote] But then that is just a way to shoehorn in the Flood without it making any difference to the story, it's insulting to those who love the Halo canon.[/quote] This is what Halo Wars did with the Flood, IMO. Think about it, in every Halo game, the Flood had a purpose in the plot. In HW, the flood were just there, for no purpose. Sure, they were enemies in a few missions, but they could just as easily have been Covenant and posed no new threat to the Spirit of Fire in any way.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XMadIrishmanX Ipso facto, Onyx was still designed to keep the Forerunners safe. By the way. Does anyone know, or can picture how the hell the Dyson sphere works? I've read the book 5 times over and can never get that part. [/quote] Onyx (the planet) wasn't designed to protect the Forerunners - the outer shell was a fortress to defend the Core Room Antechamber portal that houses the portal to the Dyson Sphere - the shield. A Dyson Sphere exists in slipspace because the Halo Array cannot affect that region. [Edited on 06.01.2010 4:39 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] shadowhawk1013 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Go Vader And what on reach is supposed to contain them if they were released? The Flood were always guarded by Sentinels and such, none were found on Reach.[/quote] well, the planet was glassed after-all, at least to the best of everyone's knowledge[/quote] The Covenant did that to almost EVERY planet the UNSC occupied, what does that prove?
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The Forerunners locked and contained the flood on the installations. Installation 04 was simply the Chief's first time in contact with the Flood. However, it is possible for the Covenant to have come in contact with the Flood back on Harvest. The USNC's first known record of Flood contact (The guys from Halo Wars are still in cryo) is installation 04. Basically, the guys from Halo Wars haven't been able to report their findings yet. The Covenant, however, could've come into contact with another ring before but lost control due to the Flood infestation. Say a damaged and lost ship found the rings. This would explain how they knew it existed. The Prophets could've decided to cover it up as to not shake the belief in the "Great Journey". The damaged ship might've been lost. The Flood then could've taken it to Harvest. The ring might've exploded somehow. That's my theory. Either that, or Halo Wars isn't canon.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Go Vader And what on reach is supposed to contain them if they were released? The Flood were always guarded by Sentinels and such, none were found on Reach.[/quote] well, the planet was glassed after-all, at least to the best of everyone's knowledge
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Go Vader [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XMadIrishmanX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Go Vader [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pachell Well considering that they found some Forerunner structures on Reach underground, it could be somewhat feasible to include the Flood or even Sentinels into the game.[/quote] No Sentinels or Flood were found in the Forerunner structures on Harvest, Arcadia, and numerous other Forerunner worlds. Why is Reach so damn special?[/quote] Harvest, Arcadia, and other Forerunner worlds didn't have Flood. Where there are flood, there are sentinels. This doesn't exclude Onyx either. Onyx was a special shield world designed to keep them safe, and the sentinels were its guards. [/quote] That and Onyx itself was composed of trillions of Sentinels.[/quote] Ipso facto, Onyx was still designed to keep the Forerunners safe. By the way. Does anyone know, or can picture how the hell the Dyson sphere works? I've read the book 5 times over and can never get that part.
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It's not a loophole at all that the Flood were in Halo Wars. The Spirit of Fire was declared [i]"lost with all hands"[/i], meaning it never returned to UNSC space. Therefore, nothing about the Flood's existence was documented at the time. I think you mean Installation 0[b]4[/b], that's when the first documented appearance of the Flood was.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XMadIrishmanX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Go Vader [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pachell Well considering that they found some Forerunner structures on Reach underground, it could be somewhat feasible to include the Flood or even Sentinels into the game.[/quote] No Sentinels or Flood were found in the Forerunner structures on Harvest, Arcadia, and numerous other Forerunner worlds. Why is Reach so damn special?[/quote] Harvest, Arcadia, and other Forerunner worlds didn't have Flood. Where there are flood, there are sentinels. This doesn't exclude Onyx either. Onyx was a special shield world designed to keep them safe, and the sentinels were its guards. [/quote] That and Onyx itself was composed of trillions of Sentinels.
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The Flood were on a Forerunner built "shield world", and they were their for thousands of years. Reach was a big rock until the UNSC "terraformed it", or filled it up with so much greenhouse gases that the planet eventually was able to sustain life. THerefore, it was lifeless before that so the Flood were never on Reach.
