Bungie....Bungie.....all you have to do [spoiler]IS BUFF PRIMARY WEAPONS AND NERF TITANS [/spoiler]

I want to speak about grenades a but as much of the conversation has been on weapons as requested. Grenades in my opinion are the biggest issue in PVP at this time. They are low to no skill and effective at insane ranges combined with lightning fast refresh times. It is possible for most classes to run double nades and blindly throw them into the atmosphere, knowing there is a good possibility that they will find and kill someone. Reduce damage by calculated % on stickies so that no grenade is a 1 shot kill. Cowardly guardians relying on magnetism to throw and hide too often. Reduce radius on lightning grenade and as others have mentioned, make its damage radius more obvious (i.e circle from Bond Brothers). Also, knowing a friendly nade from an enemy would be userful). Tracking nades need to lose their ability to track when they lose their line of sight. Add 10 seconds to refresh rate of grenades, pushing it to 39 seconds from 29 when running max discipline. That's a good bump. Apply a handling time to nades so there is a charge rate to throwing them. It's crazy that we can throw them instantly from from any situation. Very minimal handling time so while you are throwing, you can not be shooting or the disruption in shooting is enough to give pause for throught. I believe nades have a useful spot in this game and can be incredible useful and diverse but they are too much of a non skill factor in the game at the present time due to refresh rates, equipment that doubles up nades.

You are a joke. No one forces you into shotgun alleys or sniper lanes. Shotguns agree only strong because players are dumb and can be hearses into whatever. Just buff the high damage autos range a bit and nerf the highest RoF and Higher RoF pulses for less range and flinch.

So cozmo now that you have a lot of feedback when can we expect changes?

Shotguns = yo ass trash Special weapon mainer = yo ass trash Stormcaller super = yo ass trash Striker titan subclass = yo ass deffs trash. Quit using the op shit for easy mode u [b]f[u]ukboyz[/u][/b]

Well, that's the last time I will be on destiny until the weapon patch. Unplayable and not fun. Well done Cosmo, you and the live team are pushing the community away from the game.

Ok so I feel like no one is going to bring up the fact that primary's are not in the best spot right now and I feel like everyone is just ignoring it as if it's just how the game is now and it shouldn't be like that it's honestly sad how your secondary does more than your primary.

Don't nerf pulses, buff ARs and Scouts!

Specifically for shotguns: Highest impact shotguns now have the lowest base range and cannot roll rangefinder. Lowest impact shotguns now have the highest base range. You want that OHK? You can still have it, you just need to stick the barrel in someone's teeth.

GET RID OF THE PULSE RIFLE PLAGUES... APR IS RIDICULOUS THERE IS NOTHING TO COMPETE EVEN AT MAX RANGE. THE HEAD FLINCH BREAKS NECKS IT'S SO OP

Where the hell is the damage referee? Just had a red bar guy on the other team go 34 kills. Whoever lags the most has the advantage

Any update on when the weapon balance changes will happen specifically? Will it be in January?

The following changes need to be made. [u]Autorifles[/u] Autorifles are supposed to be effective at short to mid range and whilst this is the case there are certain archetypes that fall short in this area. The slowest RoF autorifles of the such as the Shadow Price need an increase in both base impact, range and stablity to bring their time to kill up in with the medium rate of rifle autorifles and make them more effective at the limits of their effective range. The medium rate of fire autorifles need a slight range and stability increase however these weapons are in a relatively good place overall. The highest rate of fire autorifles do not need any changes at the moment. [u]Pulse Rifles[/u] The highest RoF pulse rifles such as the Clever Dragon and the Grasp of Malok need to have High Caliber rounds removed. They already provide a significant amount of flinch but add in High Caliber Rounds and it becomes impossible to win a firefight against them. This archetype also needs to have their base range and stability decreased so that whilst they remain effective at close range they come less effective as you get towards mid range. The medium RoF pulse rifles are in a good place at the moment. The slowest RoF pulse rifles are in need of a significant buff. Adding High Caliber Rounds as an inherent perk would assist these weapons immensely as the flinch they inflict would allow them to compete with even the highest RoF pulse rifles. [u]Scout Rifles[/u] As it stands the only archetype of scout rifle that needs a buff is the medium RoF. This class of scout rifles needs a slight increase in impact to make them effective as a four shot kill weapon. [u]Hand Cannons[/u] Bloom is the main issue on hand cannons right now. What they need is a base increase in aim assist and range to reduce the amount of bloom that they suffer from. The Last Word requires a range decrease as it is still effective from surprising range when it is supposed to be a short range hand cannon. [u]Shotguns[/u] The current meta sees almost everyone running with a Matador 64. This archetype is a one shot, one kill weapon however with the right perks it can do this at incredible range. This archetype needs a base range decrease so that, whilst it allows for a one shot kill, players need to be a lot closer for this to happen. This would give more time for sidearm and fusion rifle players to counter them. [u]Sniper Rifles[/u] Decrease the amount of flinch caused by other weapons. Whilst I agree that flinch should be introduced, it should not be introduced to the point it becomes almost impossible to shoot, Bungie were in the right direction with snipers they just need to tone it down a bit. [u]Sidearms[/u] Sidearms are in a good place at the moment but they could do with a buff to their base handling and stability. They are the smallest of a guardians firearms and this should be reflected in the speed with which they can be deployed and the ease with which they can be retrained onto the enemy. [u]Fusion Rifles[/u] Another weapon that is in a good place at the moment. I would say that these weapons however need a slight boost to their range to be effective as a counter to shotguns [u]Rocket Launchers[/u] The only improvement required is to the Dragon's Breath exotic rocket launcher. It needs to be able to have 2 rockets and have the amount of damage the burn does increased ever so slightly. [u]Machine Guns[/u] These are in a good spot at the moment but they do get outshined by the rocket launchers. [u]Swords[/u] The Young Wolf's Howl needs an increase in its impact, energy and magazine size to allow it to compete with the other exotic swords as it very rarely gets used compared to the other swords such as the Raze Lighter and the Dark Drinker. [b]JvK B)[/b]

Nerf Thunderstrike *Drops Mic and waits for hate comments*

Just got ddos in trials by the dad's of destiny clan.

Buff the Hawkmoon.

One widely ignored fact is fusions should discharge all their bolts if killed while firing. Its ridiculous and frustrating when 2 bolts come out of a fusion as the guardian gets shotgunned.