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5/24/2010 12:33:31 AM
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They need to get rid of melee lunge.
I'm not going to try and make a long post here but I feel that melee lunge brings to many un-fair kills and is generally stupid. It would also help get rid of melee+sprint rushers.
If not completely get rid of the lunge, lessen the distance by A LOT. Sword lunge would obviously stay but no regular melee.
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They need to get rid of YOUR FACE.
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A little bit more lunge than CE would be fine. It takes so much more skill than games nowadays...
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i agree the lunge needs to be toned down a lot.
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I wouldn't mind if it had an auto-lock type feature for when you melee. [as in if you punch, you center onto their chest with the camera but don't actually move anywhere] I think that would work pretty well.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bungie fan 117 keep the lunge because i didn't like when i had to literally go all the way up to an enemy in Halo:CE to beat the down Halo2 made me happy.[/quote] Yeah, it sucks when it actually took skill to melee someone rather than lunging across the flipping map because the game did it for you. Halo:CE just had a terrible melee system!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HipiO7 Now that is just dumb. Go ahead and take something that has been in ALL Halo games...[/quote] Go play CE.
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Melee lunge is essential if you want a game that at least includes beat downs. I kind of like the lunge in Reach- you only take a step forward to melee, and that is if only the person is really, really close to you.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Carnage_976 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Methew Melee lunge is unfair and stupid? How?[/quote] I didn't want to explain it in a long paragraph so I'll try to make it short: If you see a person as you two round a corner and you both have ARs and you both start to shoot each other, and then you get your shields down and you are still both 4ft away from each other and player 1 continues to shoot and player 2 melees, P2 will magically slide/teleport across the floor at like.. 500MPH and kill the guy. 4ft is just to much, while it might not sound like a lot, it is in terms of gameplay. It should really be shortened.[/quote] Don't let him get that close to begin with.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bungie fan 117 keep the lunge because i didn't like when i had to literally go all the way up to an enemy in Halo:CE to beat the down Halo2 made me happy.[/quote] Halo CE's melee had roughly the same range as Halo 2's, melees were just much harder to land. I'd like it if the lung was about 50% weaker, that way there's a slighly larger close quarter skill gap, but people can still usually land melees.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Carnage_976 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HipiO7 Now that is just dumb. Go ahead and take something that has been in ALL Halo games...[/quote] Halo 1 didn't have it.. and it was still a very effective thing. Lunge has just made it a fail-safe and takes kills stolen away from someone who should rightfully have it.[/quote] Halo 1 made even less sense. Instead of lunges, they had magical melees which would hit and kill people that you were nowhere near.
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All they really need to remove is the weird glitch where you could double melee even though the other person meleed too early and the animation finished before the attacker meleed for the second time.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bungie fan 117 keep the lunge because i didn't like when i had to literally go all the way up to an enemy in Halo:CE to beat the down Halo2 made me happy.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Methew Melee lunge is unfair and stupid? How?[/quote] I didn't want to explain it in a long paragraph so I'll try to make it short: If you see a person as you two round a corner and you both have ARs and you both start to shoot each other, and then you get your shields down and you are still both 4ft away from each other and player 1 continues to shoot and player 2 melees, P2 will magically slide/teleport across the floor at like.. 500MPH and kill the guy. 4ft is just to much, while it might not sound like a lot, it is in terms of gameplay. It should really be shortened.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ronan1555 Without the lunge the person you are trying to mellee could just keep walking backwards shooting at you[/quote] I can see where this would be a problem, but like I said, if it doesn't get removed just shorten the lunge range a lot. I remember I was going to melee someone who just started to use the jet-pack and he was a good... 5-7ft away I'd say and I lunge ALL the way up to him and assassinated him, that's just stupid. I'm gonna guess here and say the lunge is 4ft regularly? I think it should be shortened to around 3/4ft a-foot or at least a foot.
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Melee lunge is unfair and stupid? How? And Melee+Sprinters are very likely going to be nerfed given how they are adding more delay before you can melee again into the final game. What I would say needs to be fixed, and by fixed I mean broken and the peices reshaped into a pale, grotesque visage of it's former self, is Shotgun/Sword/Hammer Sprinters.
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Without the lunge the person you are trying to mellee could just keep walking backwards shooting at you
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but I love melee lunch :(
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bungie fan 117 keep the lunge because i didn't like when i had to literally go all the way up to an enemy in Halo:CE to beat the down Halo2 made me happy.[/quote] That's the point, you should have to go all the way up to someone and punch them. It's stupid that I magically slide 3-4ft to my target at the speed of light and then hit them. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HipiO7 Now that is just dumb. Go ahead and take something that has been in ALL Halo games...[/quote] Halo 1 didn't have it.. and it was still a very effective thing. Lunge has just made it a fail-safe and takes kills stolen away from someone who should rightfully have it.
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I agree. The Lunge should be a hammer and sword only thing. It's the whole point of the hammer and sword to be superior melee weapons. It also takes more skill to truly hit someone with your gun, like in Halo 1. Random: The melee lunge in Halo 2 was terrible. More often than not, you'd fly past your victim, fall to your death, or unexplainably go flying 80 feet in the air, after your lunge FAILED. I rarely melee in Halo 2, and NEVER if the enemy is nearby a ledge.
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Lunge is only for sword. You mean Teleportation :D
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good idea
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keep the lunge because i didn't like when i had to literally go all the way up to an enemy in Halo:CE to beat the down Halo2 made me happy.
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Now that is just dumb. Go ahead and take something that has been in ALL Halo games...
