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originally posted in:The New Dojo
11/9/2016 4:45:35 PM
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[quote]12) If you have beef with another member, take it to PM's. No one wants to hear you guys bicker. If it's a serious issue, contact any of the senseis through PM's. This is a serious issue and has caused separation of members from us in the past. So please, just PM someone. Don't take it to chat.[/quote]
Looking at what happened in old dojo chat where Vio got roasted. Even though it was totally uncalled for because he's not here anymore
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;-; It's not what you think
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yes it is boi
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[spoiler]imma be frank i did get a little fukked up near the end there but i guess there's some stuff i want to get off my chest. JT? Not only did I apologize, i also clearly stated to him–and to EVERYBODY–that I didn't mean a single thing I said. And it's true, I was making smack up as I typed because he was leaving, people wanted him back but nobody was successful in getting him back. So I did the only thing that I was almost certain would work, and that was being a complete jackass. Ya know what, it did work. I'm happy I managed to get that old cowboy back in the dojo, not so happy with the consequences that it brought down upon myself. Secondly, i don't really remember insulting anybody else. Even if I actually did insult other people besides JT, i didn't mean it at all; I have text tone issues in addition to regular tone issues. People IRL think I'm being serious when I'm not. But yeah, I'm almost certain that I did not directly insult anybody in a serious manner.... Although I admit to excessive passive-aggressiveness, massive saltiness, exclusivity, being egotistical, and the like. Thirdly, i did have some shit going on at the time, yeah. And I did end up feeling that everybody on this site hated me in one way or another; that's the reason why I left. I remember throwing a bigass shitstorm after a couple of our characters PvP'd... and damn do I feel stupid about that. I guess that made you feel as though I was an asshole... and yeah. I was an asshole. But that 'conversation' mentioned? Yeah I was there and reading every word that was said when it was said. Alts breh. Actually, it might've been a different conversation that I read when I was 'roasted' but point being is that reading that sent me over the edge. I was like depressed for two weeks. Not fun stuff.[/spoiler] So i mean... if you still feel like I'm still an asshat after six months then idk what i can do really.
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I'm just happy that you're back and are trying to improve yourself is all. No reason to really dwell on the past
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i dun belive
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Well that's your choice
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breh kidding. why i said 'dun belive' instead of 'I don't believe you' eh. it's clear you still think of me as an asshat so im gonna back off.
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But....but I don't ;-;
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Vio didn't get "roasted". It was just blatant disrespect to an old member who had a reason to leave, and even though he apologized, like I told you guys. It was sickening how fast you guys turned on him when JT started bitching about him.
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He didn't apologize. Not to JT. I think that's the reason he went so crazy
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He did actually apologize to JT for being an ass when JT was going to leave.
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Ah I never saw that. So why was JT so pissed about not getting an apology?
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Because JT's an asshole, that's why. The only thing he wanted to do was paint Vio in a bad light, just because they had some differences. And you guys shouldn't have gone along with it. Shows us how you guys really are.
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Really are? That's just plain old ridiculous to say Sap. I'm actually kind of disappointed you'd say that
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I'm disappointed you'd talk about a previous member that way, Roy.
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I'm just disappointed you think this is who I am. Let's face the facts for a second. I've stated my opinion on this particular individual. And Vio really isn't my favorite person ever. But he's far from the worst. My opinion was that he was an asshole, and I really am not proud of this. I really don't like being mean to people. Really dislike it. But I will be when I have to. I do believe that Vio deserved what was said, but maybe not in the way it was spoken. It was very wrong of myself, and everyone included to speak of him in that sense while he could not defend himself. For this, I do apologize. I would like to revoke what I said, but I know it won't be easily forgotten. Now, I think you and me have been through a bit. Maybe not personally, but I know the type of person you are you know how I am. I do have a very dickish personality, I am not the first to admit nor will I be the last. Sometimes this assholeness does overcloud my thoughts and what I say. In retrospect, I shouldn't have said didly squat. But I do have opinions, like everyone in chat. If you disagree with these opinions don't let it skewer how you see me overall. I truly do try to be a honorable member, with good intentions. I hardly ever speak of someone in a damming sense and when I do, I don't mean it. Once again, I throughly and extensively apologize for what I said. I implore you not to let affect our relations
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I'm only disappointed because none of you bothered to actually get to know him, you just formed your opinions on what he did sometimes. If you would have bothered to actually try and talk to him, you'd have learned that he was actually a really good guy going through some tough times. This contributed to him leaving for good. He thought everyone hated him because nobody bothered to get to know him enough to know what was happening, and why he was acting that way. That wasn't the whole reason, mind you, but it definitely effected him as a person. It -blam!-ing wrecked him. Life set up the dominoes, you guys pushed them over and watched them fall, and me and Orn were the only ones who tried to set them back up.
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In fact, I was the first of anyone in the dojo to actually get to know Vio. Me and Vio built the original Caquale together, and we both worked extremely hard on it. I saw the good he had, hence why I am so disappointed in myself for my words. Vio was a good guy, he was at heart. I know he had his fair share of problems and even though he was never open about them with me, I related as best I could. I knew who Vio was, what he could do and how nice he was. It really hurt me to see him become exclusive. Because I really tried to continue being his friend. I really did try to continue RPing with him but he never felt the same.
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Well as we see, JT hasn't been a shining example lately
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Still, it doesn't matter. They joined in all the same.
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Mmmm. Well Vio insulted everyone before he left. It would mean more if he had apologized in person.
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He had a reason, Pants. And it's a very good reason that he didn't come back.
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Alright. I have nothing against him. But everyone he insulted did. Thus, people talked behind his back. Anger is a natural response to insults. Also, Vio was terrible to JT when he said he was leaving, which was shortly after his grandmother died.
