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11/2/2016 3:53:37 PM
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Bungie, we want answers! How does the 3 Of Coins system work?
So it seems that everyone I talk to has their own theory on how 3 of Coins work, and every theory is completely changed every time there is a small patch. I am looking for answers to the burning question we all have, how exactly does the 3OC currently work? More specifically...
1) What are the set drop rates/probability settings for 3OC?
2) Can one "stack" 3OC, and if so, how many can be stacked, and what is the effect of the stacking (is it an additional set probability or a multiplier)?
3) Are the set probabilities different for each 3OC opportunity (strike bosses v. crucible v. CoE)?
4) Are there variations in drop rates for different specific opportunities (do different bosses have their own set rates, do different crucible types have their own set rates, is there a difference in Normal Strikes v. Heroic v. Nightfall)?
5) For crucible, does the drop rate change depending in if you win or lose the match and/or how well one performs?
6) Are there any other additional factors that can have an effect on the drop rate (for example wearing an exotic v. not, certain active perks, sub-class, class, level, light level, etc.)?
I am not complaining about the drop rate, I am just curious about what the actual situation is after hearing so many theories. Also I suppose I wouldn't mind knowing how to use my 3OC in the most optimal way... But mostly curiosity!
I would really appreciate a Bungie reply or a direct quote from a previous Bungie answer (post-patch). Or if someone has run a recent statistically valid test with sufficient sample sizes, that would be interesting too.
Thank you,
The_Urban_Nomad
(Posted 11-2-2016)
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Ancient Chinese Secret!
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1. I think Jesus/Allah/Buddha/Chuck Norris are the only one who knows this definitively. 2. I've always heard/read that you're not supposed to stack them. On a whim, I tried one time (back in TTK) to see what happens. One time mind you so not a definitive answer but I can't imagine getting this lucky. Popped 1 3oC - Got exotic engram Popped 2 3oC - Got exotic engram Popped 3 3oC - Got exotic engram Popped 4 3oC - Got exotic engram Popped 5 3oC - Got exotic engram Popped 6 3oC - Got nothing So I popped 21 3oC's within a matter of about 30 minutes and got 5 exotic engrams all back to back. So odds were around 1:4 which is astounding but to have them all drop back to back within that short amount of time is insane. Might have been just that lucky but seemed strange that popping that many 3oC "worked" out in my favor. Haven't tried it since but [b][i]maybe[/i] [/b]something to stacking them that they're not telling us? 3. I mainly pop 3oC's during strikes/ultras so can't really comment. I've had some drop in other events/activities however I don't play them as much as I do strikes. I think it's be safe to assume there isn't any real difference in what you're doing when popping 3oC 4. Bungie is WAY too stupid to program something like this in. way too stupid. 5. Nope. I've beasted and won and as well as sucked ass and lost. I've gotten exotics to drop in both cases. Granted I tend to lose more than I win and suck ass more than I beast but seems to me it really doesn't matter if you win/lose or if you're beast mode/scrub lord. 6. Nope, see #4. This is beyond Bungie to put that much thought/effort. As these are my observations, take them for what they're worth. However, since the most recent patch, I have noticed a significant decline in the drop rate of exotics when using 3oCs. Previously, I could kill the 3 ultras in the Black Garden mission every 30 minutes and within 6 3oC's, I could almost be guaranteed an exotic. It was almost like clockwork for me. This way I managed to get to 385 without every playing the raid or leveling up vendor/vanguard. It was done almost exclusively through exotics from 3oCs. NOW? I can go through 20-30 and only get one to drop. Rare occasions it'll drop "normally" from a few 3oC's but now it seems that either the probability has decreased or Bungie has done something else to muck around with 3oCs. if they did lower the probability or effectiveness of 3oC's. wouldn't surprise me. Seems they like dragging out the grind in any way they can so I wouldn't be shocked if they ninja nerfed 3oC recently.
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When ive tried the farming methods or every match in heroics & crucible, i can go thru 40+ and not get single drop... yet i can pop one before beating a taken zeleot or some boss in COE and get one every few times. Makes no sense. So NOT getting an exotic from 3oc's definitely DOES NOT increase ur chances. I think dumb fkn luck period. Shouldnt need 3oc's. Just add exotics to rng. I mean xur is literally useless as fuk... we ONLY get 3ocs to waste from him. Then waste tons and tons of 3oc's for a rare drop. Just eliminate them altogetuer.. would be less frustrating.
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Read the description to 3oC. Show Spoiler
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If they gave too much info someone would find a way to cheese it.
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Eventually. Next!
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1 ReplyThey explained this when they came out. Each time one is used without giving an exotic, your chances to get an exotic go up the next time you use one. This chance continues to go up until you get one, then it resets. Don't use more than one at a time. The item is what provides the chance, so it doesn't matter what method (strike, crucible, etc.) Anypne who says they think one is more likely than the other doesn't understand what random truly means.
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2 RepliesThey gave answers in an interview pre rise of iron bro. Rise of iron producer Scot Taylor when asked by eurogamer: [quote]I'm being told it's my final question. Will Three of Coins be staying for Rise of Iron? Taylor: Yes, absolutely. Bungie has never said - what's the best method for using Three of Coins? Taylor: I always put one on... Is there a cooldown timer? Taylor: ...There is not.[/quote] Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-09-02-bungie-talks-destiny-rise-of-irons-future-events-wolves-and-raid
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3 RepliesI think that the more people in your fire team the high chance you have because one week I spent over 100 3oc on the black garden solo and got 2 then the next week me and my friends got together and we spent 100 3oc all up and we all got around 10 to 12 each so that could be one thing that could make a difference. Also we where around 375 to 385 light level me being 381 one of my friends was 385 and the other 375
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1 ReplyWell said! Such a shame you won't get a reply though!
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Bump for answers
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I would also like to know. I've heard theories and conjecture but nothing concrete. I farm the black garden on mars for exotics a lot because you get 3 chances per run. And once you have the checkpoint at the bosses you can continually do run and back out to orbit and go right back. I've done 7 rounds in a row (21 4oC's) with 0 exotic drops and then I've played with my brother for 4 rounds (12 3oC's) once where he had 7 exotics drop. Twice during that run he had double exotics drop. Not gonna lie, I was salty about that
