i dno i liked the leader boards lol. if any of you played counter strike on xbox i think their ranking of players is better wer evry1 is on it nd you no xactly wer u are in the world :D

Bungie is a JOKE!!! I submitted to them some cheaters who I know for a fact that they were cheating (they even admitted it) and Bungie still has done nothing!!!! Taking the leaderboard away is absolutely retarded! Does Bungie really think that's gonna solve the cheating problem? Talk about having a lack of vision! To add insult to injury, they took away my stats on the day their ranking system went screwy and now I get to get raped(my stats) by cheaters and Bungie!!! Thanks for dropping the ball!!!!! Sincerely, JoeMama420 a.k.a. a disgruntled halo player!

i hate u bungie i was a 44 in runble pit and u took of the boards thankx [Edited on 11/11/2005]

JUST BAN THE TOP 1000 FROM ALL THE OARDS AND YOU WOULD KILL 95%+ OF ALL THE CHEATING . OTHER THAN THAT NOW WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT BRIDGING CREATE A FEEDBACK LOOP THAT CAUSES THEIR XBOX TO EXPLODE. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SketchFactor As we first mentioned two weeks ago, the Halo 2 Leaderboards are officially gone from Bungie.net. This is something we've discussed at length for quite a while and ultimately we feel that the Leaderboards are not worth keeping. Unfortunately the leaderboards ended up being a shrine for cheaters and hackers and for the most part did nothing but cause legitimate players pain. We don't have the resources to manually investigate and monitor every single player on the Leaderboards nor do we feel that is warranted. That is time and energy better spent on creating new playlists and making the core online experience better for everyone. Keep in mind that only a tiny percentage of actual players are affected by the Leaderboards - only 1,000 of several hundred thousand ever make the list. The amount of work required to cater to this small minority compared to the overall return for the community just isn't worth it. We sincerely apologize to the few players out there who have played hundreds of legitimate games to work your way up the leaderboards. You will still keep your rankings and your stats as a token of your l337 skillz. Unfortunately the reality is that the vast majority of people who do appear on the leaderboards have only got there through some form of cheating. Your rankings and player stats will remain unchanged and there will be no noticeable difference in Halo 2 other than the absence of the "Top 1000" lists on the Bungie.net stats page. [/quote]

THANX FOR REMOVING LEADERBOARDS, NOW ALL U HAVE TO DO IS REMOVE RANKINGS, STOP BEING NOOBS BUNGIE... IF U REMOVE RANKINGS MAYBE WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET A DECENT GAME. PPL WONT CHEAT IF THERE ARE NO RANKINGS, AND IF THEY DO CHEAT WE CAN JUST QUIT. BUNGIE U DISGRACED HALO, TOOK AWAY EVERYTHING THAT MADE IT GOOD, AND NOW U BROUGHT US CHEATERS, JUST TAKE OUT STATS AND PROBLEM SOLVED.

I am only a 29, but atleast it is legit, but since the leaderboards are gone I still get modded just as often, so I don't think it matters, some people just like to ruin things for other people. Also when i see flying warthogs, auto scorpion fire and those guys that fly around the map at mach 10, i know damn well i am getting modded, but since i dont know much about modding i want to know if there are subtle mods that people may not notice in hectic games. For example i played this guy in head to head the other day and everything seemed straight except that he kept killing me with 2 headshots from a br and a couple times i emptied an entire clip into his head from behind and it did'nt even appear to be damaging him. Are there mods that just make your weapons and shield stronger. the match was on warlock where a lot of shady stuff goes on so that makes me extra suspicious and before you say i just suck i must say i have no problem admitting when i get owned but i had never seen anything like that before dumb question: What exactly is boosting? I understand stand by and modding but wtf is boosting [Edited on 10/30/2005]

this sucks now because i cant see if i'm on the leaderboards now :( [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SketchFactor As we first mentioned two weeks ago, the Halo 2 Leaderboards are officially gone from Bungie.net. This is something we've discussed at length for quite a while and ultimately we feel that the Leaderboards are not worth keeping. Unfortunately the leaderboards ended up being a shrine for cheaters and hackers and for the most part did nothing but cause legitimate players pain. We don't have the resources to manually investigate and monitor every single player on the Leaderboards nor do we feel that is warranted. That is time and energy better spent on creating new playlists and making the core online experience better for everyone. Keep in mind that only a tiny percentage of actual players are affected by the Leaderboards - only 1,000 of several hundred thousand ever make the list. The amount of work required to cater to this small minority compared to the overall return for the community just isn't worth it. We sincerely apologize to the few players out there who have played hundreds of legitimate games to work your way up the leaderboards. You will still keep your rankings and your stats as a token of your l337 skillz. Unfortunately the reality is that the vast majority of people who do appear on the leaderboards have only got there through some form of cheating. Your rankings and player stats will remain unchanged and there will be no noticeable difference in Halo 2 other than the absence of the "Top 1000" lists on the Bungie.net stats page. [/quote]

Wow...shaunpaulie...you said...i think you guys will just find a better way for halo 3 cause if there aint stats and stuff this game wont be as good..wow, wow, wow, are you that big of a moron? Do you know how many millions of copies of Halo CE have been sold (Halo CE had no ranks, there was no live then, but still no ranks)? Ranks do not equal a good game. And to ganjabis...you said...removing the leaderboards allows them to relax the banhammer as its a LOT harder for us too see how getting rid of modders is going...who gives a crap if "we" can see it..the leaderboards never showed how getting rid of modders was going, it just gave a list of the top 1000 modders. Bungie told us how it was going, over 56 thousand accounts banned!

OMG bungie really reallly do blow!!! removing the leaderboards allows them to relax the banhammer as its a LOT harder for us too see how getting rid of modders is going. The first 1000 on boards could all be modders now and we wouldnt know! A Major loss to all who enjoy halo2, the cheaters have won again and bungie blow.

how are we spose to know who is legit with there level now and stuff, and clan stuff, i think you guys will just find a better way for halo 3 cause if there aint stats and stuff this game wont be as good, and maybe change around the levels you guys made levels so important that people wanted to cheat, and people lost there levels so they made a new account and cheated to get back to there legit rank so its a endless cyle :-\

ya definateley keep the levels and ranks cuz if ur legit it quickly shows others ur skillz even if they are sumwhat innacurate suimtimes [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] codyman1 thank you finnaly im a legit 31 and i still get modded and standbyed and what not all the time but thank you besides if you really think about it how much of a life do u have if all u do is sit there for hours "modding"(which costs $$$) and cheating wooohoo good luck being cool with ur cheated 41 omg everyone thinks ur so cool ok u stupid -blam!- cheaters i just hope u see what all this is causing and play the game for real gosh o ya and if u mod and cheat plz buy ps2 i hear the games are so much easier start there[/quote]YO MOMMA CHEATAS

thank you finnaly im a legit 31 and i still get modded and standbyed and what not all the time but thank you besides if you really think about it how much of a life do u have if all u do is sit there for hours "modding"(which costs $$$) and cheating wooohoo good luck being cool with ur cheated 41 omg everyone thinks ur so cool ok u stupid -blam!- cheaters i just hope u see what all this is causing and play the game for real gosh o ya and if u mod and cheat plz buy ps2 i hear the games are so much easier start there [Edited on 10/26/2005]

I have to say you are now thinking bungie. This is all cheats have to show forth the effert to even cheat is get that #1 spot or w/e. Hackers, Moders, Stand bying, 2ndary stand bying poeple are really sad indivials. They spead money to get cards, modems, and search on the internet for mods which helps them in cheating. The only lives they have is that leaderboard and you took away....YESSSS!!! thank F'n GOD. Why can't you poeple play the F'n game as it would ment to be! Cheating is boring. Everyone here that has posted has cheated on a single player game like Max Payne, Duke Numkem, Unreal ext ext ext. And it gets boring and itsn't any fun playing the game all i do with the cheats is just stand there and yell at the AI saying HAHAHA YOU CAN"T KILL ME I HAVE "GOD MODE" ON!!! donesn't have that feeling of the game if you can't die....at all. So why cheat to get that high rank? So you can be speacil? hmm all i can say is....Nerds? OMG i have a halo for my rank...(moder)....ok OMG WOW YOU F'N MAGICAL ALL YOU HAVE TO DO FOR THAT IS RUN REALLY FAST AND GET THE FLAG FROM THE OTHER BASE IN UNDER 2 SECS!!! so i have to say moders do not have any motive for cheating. Only on thing is left is the ranking system. All cheats has now is thier rank. Ok why would you want to know you have a "halo" for your rank so what? Only people i play with are my friends. If you want to have proff of your L33T skillz do it on the battle field and don't say hey i'm lvl 50 its all over, cuse you just might be a modder which your rank really should be a lvl 10 which is weak! Haha wow i love ranking about cheats just make me really pissed off. I love halo 2 for xbox live and macthmaking but moders had me only going into unrank games and custom. only team slayer to get my "averge 25" but i just show up on the battle field and don't give a damn about there ranks. ONly thing they indcate to me is i have to play smarter and more aware cuse they are 30s or even 40s.

This is excellent. To make things perfect now we just need to remove the individual rankings (i.e. those used for matchmaking) for different game types. I know that this is there to make the game look bigger, more expansive and more challenging but unfortunately it spoils the game where the rankings are supposed to be there to match up similarly skilled players. It's not much fun in Head to Head when e.g. you're a 8 and you end up playing a run of people that are something like 32, 27, 25, 22, 29 etc. There's no way that I can afford the time to get my rankings up to this type of level so it detracts from my enjoyment of the game and, in the majority of the cases these higher ranked players won't get as much enjoyment - even though you do get the odd abusive and smart alec ones :-) Let's just get rid of the individual rankings per game type as they don't really work and, to keep the interest in some sort of rankings how about if we have the win / loss and associated %'s for the bragging rights etc. This way the matchmaking will work MUCH better and you can still make the different game types a challenge.

The only thing that i HATE is that there is no radar im one of the few legit level 44's and its really sad that peeps have no skillZ gamer tag XX PREZZY XX

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