Well I can tell you it wasn't much fun running 3 characters through at 350 just to gain 5 light levels, but it was at least a little less monotonous and frustrating than the juiced up heroic strike play list. Which I can at least compete with now. Still trying to get to raid ready. What made it worse is that I am NOT a good pvp player to begin with. They are hammering us with what they feel is an ingenious new mode, still won't lay off of that knowing that we all know this is a complete COD ripoff. They really must think we are idiots.