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Edited by Kell of Rain: 9/22/2016 12:54:42 PM
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Lord Felwinter

If you haven't read the Grimoire for the Iron Lords, I'd highly recommend it. There's a lot of information that paints a pretty good picture of the time when the Dark Age was transitioning into the City Age. Back before the Guardians were Guardians, and when the remains of Humanity were under the rule of Warlords. Some of you might have already heard about the warlord problem and how they plauged the wilds and even the City in it's early days, and how the precursor Guardians, known as the Risen, put an end to this. What is revealed in this latest expansion is that these Warlords were "Light-Bearers", Guardians who misused their power to rule over their land and it's people with an iron fist. The Iron Lords were a sort of police force that ushered in the end to the Age of the Warlord, liberating the settlements out in the Wild and making the City possible without fear of territorial attacks from rouge Light-Bearers. From what we've heard, the Iron Lords were these noble warriors, who fought with honor and kept their sacred creed. This new Grimoire suggests that a lot of the group were immature psychopaths, who only got along on the battlefield. But that's what makes them so great. Although there's quite a bit of Lore in all of the Iron Lord cards, I'll be focusing on Felwinter. Mainly because he has the most intristing (and only) backstory out of all the Iron Lords. First of all, Felwinter was a Warlord himself, known as the Dark Horse Felwinter. He was the only Warlord who was known to able to hold dominion over an entire Mountain, which he dubbed Felwinter Peak, and was where he established his throne. He eventually gave up his territory and took down his throne when he joined the Iron Lords. Felwinter gave up his Mountain because he knew that the Iron Lords would not stop until the Warlords were gone for good. But he didn't give in out of fear they'd kill him, Felwinter seemed too confident with his combat prowess to be muscled out of anything. He gave up his Warlord ways and joined the Iron Lords because he was tired of always having to have his guard up. He knew the Iron Lords could and would put a stop to the fighting, and so he joined them in hopes of being able to sleep soundly without having to worry about an attack. Like any other Iron Lord, Felwinter worked to break the rule of any and all Warlords, whether if it was by force or through negotiation. One of these Warlords was named Citan, who ruled the 32nd Sector of Old Russia. Felwinter attempted negotiations with him, where they met in Citan's stronghold to talk. Citan viewed Felwinter as a traitor to the Warlords, and refused to listen to his offers with any real interest. As a result, these negotiations broke down rather fast. Citan flipped the table they sat at, and Felwinter dodged it with a blink, and then shoulder charged Citan, a trick Lady Jolder taught him. Felwinter explained that he didn't believe Citan was capable of change, and that if he joined, the Iron Lords wouldn't punish him properly. So he kills Citan and when his Ghost appears to revive him, he destroys it, which is an unspoken taboo amongst the Light-Bearers. Felwinter brings the most to the table in terms of understanding what the world was like at this point in history. He shows the perspective of both an Iron Lord and a Warlord, a brave defender of Humanity while at the same time a ruthless killer willing to cross the line into darker territories. Felwinter also displays that the Iron Lords didn't want just to drive the Warlords to extinction, but to give them a chance to reform, a chance that Felwinter took himself. All of these factors build this image of a very violent world trapped in conflict with itself, where even the Guardians were against each other and normal civilians, and that the Iron Lords were fighting tooth and nail to slap some sence into all the Light-Bearers. And for as flawed as they were, the Iron Lords gave everything they had to the betterment of the world and basically flung the rest of Humanity into the City age, which makes this one of the best lore expansions so far. Overall, Felwinter is a bad ass. Not my favorite Iron Lord (that would be Skorri), but definitely a close second. How about you, who's your Patron Lord? Edit: If you want to read all the Iron Lord lore, the Ishtar Collective is a good site to do so http://www.ishtar-collective.net/grimoire_pages/iron-lords
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  • Contrary to him being an exo, I find Felwinter to be the most human of the group. He has ambition, but also fear. He has intelligence, but also ignorance. The other iron lords seem to view him as a powerful (and scary) warlock, but at the end of the day, he was Timur's student and had a lot to learn. All the other iron lords had a defining characteristic: Radegast was a leader. Sorry could sing and was a little "extra." Peru was a good tactician. Timur was smart and liked Clovis Bray stuff. The list goes on. Felwinter, in my opinion, is the most rounded of all.

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  • [b][u]WARNING: SPOILER ALERT![/u][/b]Speaking of Felwinter. Has anybody ever tried using a sniper rifle and zooming into the faces of the Remanence of the Iron Lords you fight at the end of the game? I found this picture when I was looking for pictures of the final bosses of Rise of Iron.

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    • Felwinter is my favourite mostly because he was zero bullshit. He knew exactly the world he was living in and how to fix. After all even odin keeps LOKI around for shady stuff

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      • Felwinter is my favorite. He is just really awesome, i like how he handles things

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      • Felwinter is a savage if you read the grimoire......WARLOCK master race lmao

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      • Edited by michael: 9/23/2016 1:23:46 AM
        gheleon just because of his line that ends his grimore, where everyone is bickering over a way to escape and he threatens to kill everyone and make armor out of their bones and hide under the corpses.

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        • OK but what was his lie? Bungie lied by saying they'd explore what his lie was in this dlc.

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          • What about Efrideet? Haven't heard mention of that name I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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            • My main beef with felwinter was that he was an exo, so WHY THE HELL DOES THE REMNANT OF FELWINTER IN THE LAST MISSION HAVE A HUMAN JAW AND TEETH

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              • Blinking Warlock who can shoulder charge?! Sounds like a horror story!

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                • Edited by RinkNum3: 9/22/2016 2:55:31 PM
                  [quote]How about you, who's your Patron Lord?[/quote] [spoiler]SYLOK[/spoiler] [spoiler]THE DEFILED!!!![/spoiler]

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                  • Chuck Norris

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                  • I haven't read the others (so I may be biased) but I really liked Jolder's card.

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                  • Do one for Radegast, the "King Arthur" of the iron lords. WHICH REMINDS ME... If Radegast is the King Arthur of these lords, surely he must've had a legendary weapon like the original did right? Like, oh I don't know, EXACLIBUR? [spoiler]I really want a new sword. Not that noobie iron lord one. I want the one wielded by the leader of the iron lords. His artifact relates to swords![/spoiler]

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                    • I picked up Memory of Timur recently so I decided to give it's Grimoire card a read over. And holy sh*t, Timurs a bad*ass. Turning an army of Shanks against their Vandal 'master' and ripping through enemies with his Stormtrance. I'd have to say Timurs my favourite at the moment but I'll have to read over the others first before I can give a definitive answer.

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                    • Lady Perun for me. My hunter wears her Mantle right now, picked it up from Shiro.

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                    • Edited by AdligerAdler: 9/23/2016 7:46:01 AM
                      Is the skeleton on Felwinter's Peak Felwinter himself or who is it?

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                      • Definitely my favourite, i really like his character (shame he wasn't a Hunter). I want to be a good warlord too lol.

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                      • Someone needs to take the lore and turn it into a short film or something. I rather watch it then read it.

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                        • Felwinter's my favourite, because of his backstory. Silimar, because I love his persistence. Jolder, I like her fun loving attitude, and how she was the one to finish it. (Even though she didn't)

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                        • Felwinter's Lie is that he is a Warlock, the dude knows how to frickin Shoulder Charge.

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                          • He's my favorite.

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                            • Can someone explain how saladins a gaurdian if there were no guardians then. Also he said that he thought they would win because they had the travelers light on their side

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                              • Edited by Lord Silimar: 9/22/2016 5:17:44 PM
                                My Grimoire [spoiler]Lord Silimar died for his pile of stones. He died when the Fallen took it in the battle of Alms. He died when the warlords destroyed it in their third great barrage. He died, blade through his eye, when the House of Devils smashed it in their westward campaign. He died on the structure’s great steps, cut down by an advancing line of Archons, and when the stonework fell to cluster bombs. He died in the structure’s sprawling shadow and upon its vaunted heights. Once, during a Fallen siege, while the battlements crumbled beneath his feet, he leapt from its parapet, so that he might know the structure more fully, might feel the weight of the sky pressing down on all that stone and steel. “The better to raise its next incarnation,” he said to those allies who later questioned his madness. As the Fallen charged, Silimar refused to abandon what he’d built, though others retreated to a stronger position. “Go,” he told them. “Save yourselves. I’ll slow them down.” The enemy came in overwhelming force. A breaking wave of blades and firepower and death. Atop the structure’s central bulwark, Lord Silimar held his ground. “Take it if you can, you bastards!” He shouted at the swarming enemy. He leapt upon the great edifice and there put up a final stand as the enemy engulfed him. He died with his dagger in the guts of an Archon while the great structure shook with explosions and rained stones down upon the land. Later that night, when Lord Silimar rose again from the ashes, he found Lord Saladin already there and waiting, standing near the place where he’d made his final stand. “This structure is doomed,” Saladin said in the darkness. “You must know this.” “Not doomed,” Silimar said. “Fated, perhaps. Doomed is too strong a word.” “Use whatever word you like, but there’s another word that applies to this place: indefensible. And yet after each defeat, you rebuild.” “I seek only to build it more perfectly.” Lord Saladin shook his head. “Only a fool would raise the same structure again and again.” “These stones are like us,” Lord Silimar said. “Don’t you see?” Silimar rose to his feet. He walked among the smoking ruins. The shattered blocks. He glanced down at the piled corpses of dead enemies. The charred remains of a once-great citadel now reduced to scattered rubble. “They knock us down, you and me,” he continued. “But time and again, we rise. Like this place.” “Eleven times they’ve destroyed what you’ve built,” Saladin said. “Why rebuild what will be knocked down?” “Because one time they won’t be able to,” Silimar said. “And when that day comes, when this perfect, indefensible structure stays standing, then we’ll know.” “We’ll know what?” Lord Silimar looked at his old friend. Then he turned and strode the broken stones, and looked out over the ruins that spread away into the distance. “Then we’ll know it’s safe to build our city to the sky.”[/spoiler] Radegast [spoiler]Radegast strode through the ashes. A cloud hung in his wake as he made his way to the top of the rise. Scars marred his armor, and his sidearm lay in the dust. He didn't need it, now. The battle was over. This had been a mining outpost, once. A few buildings and a transport. Nestled amid a small forest, it had been like a precious jewel set atop the dull crown of the wildlands. Now there was almost nothing left. The warrior began to walk slowly down into the valley. He pulled his helm from his head and let it drop with a muted thud into the ash. Of the forest, only stumps remained. Of the small village there was no trace; the buildings reduced to splinters. Here and there you could see dull gray signs of inhabitation. At the bottom of the valley, Radegast came to the source of the ash, death, and violence. The Light-bearers were laid out in a row, simple cloth covering their armored and robed forms. There were five of them, and they had been lined up beneath the melted girders of the settlement's great hall. These warlords had terrorized this part of the wilds for years. Hundreds had died at their hands. Radegast turned as his companions crossed the valley floor to join him. They had been policing the dead, finding a fitting end for the settlers and miners of the outpost. Jolder came with a steady glide, energy and fire. Saladin, calm and slow, the weight of the dead on his shoulders. In formation behind them stepped Perun, her boots barely leaving a trace as she walked. They gathered before him. "Never again." He intoned the words quietly. The others stood as battle-scarred statues. "We ride against despots and warlords. We hide in these enclaves, hoping that other Light-bearers will not find us. We fear each other." He shook his head, his fists clenched. "And we should not. We are stronger, together. We are mighty, together. All we have to fear is... this." He pointed down at the dead warlords. "Giving in. Allowing the power of the Light to blind us to what we truly are." It was Perun, of course, who asked the question. "What are we?" No judgment. No reproach. Still, Radegast could feel their doubt. He turned upwards, and his eyes settled on the massive span that supported the hall. His eyes shone as he turned back to his fellows. "We will be what the people need us to be. We will be guardians. We will be protectors. We will hold the last of us together." His voice rang out across the still valley. "Our days of hiding are ended. Say it now, each of you. Who among the other bearers do you trust? Who can be counted on to ride with us?" "Bretomart,” said Jolder. "Deidris," said Perun. "I trust only you, Radegast," said Saladin, and their leader scowled in response. "What are you saying? What are we?" Perun asked again. Radegast smiled. "We will gather those you trust. We will not wait for this"—he gestured around him— "to force our hand. We will ride against those that would use the Light against our own. Humanity must have protectors. Like the knights of old." Around them, the dust swirled in the air. Shafts of sunlight coalesced in long slanted bars as the sun dipped towards the horizon. "Are you with me? Will you stand with me— as Iron Lords?" In the waning light, their answers rang like thunder on the air.[/spoiler]

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                              • [quote][spoiler]Citan flipped the table they sat at, and Felwinter dodged it with a blink, and then shoulder charged Citan, a trick Lady Jolder taught him.[/spoiler][/quote] Not sure if this is satire or not...

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                                • This is awesome. I'd say Lord Timur is my fav' , now I'm off to read the rest of the grimoire I missed lol

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