[quote]If you read the Topic, then you should think first before you write "Are you a -blam!-? Snipers Need the most Skill!" I don't want to wrote to much in this Post so i describe the important Things. First about the Principle: Let us talk about the Steps to get a kill in the Crucible. With a Sniper you have two/three Steps to do: [i]Scope, Aim and shoot.[/i] With a Shotgun you have more than 3 Steps: [i]Reach an useable Range, make your Shotgun ready (if you didn't done that before the "Reach"), aim and shoot (shoot again if ít wasn't a Kill).[/i] We have to remember that in Destiny Shotguns exist which haven't the same Impact like Party Crasher +1 and Felwinters Lie Archtypes. Shotguns like Invective and Comedian have more Rate of Fire then Damage so they need Range for making Kills on Distance. And it isn't a Reason that Shotguns with Full-Auto need no Skill. Simple Example: Invective have Full-Auto, right? Yeah, she haves but against other legendary Shotguns with Full-Auto is the Recoil not reduced. Invective has very much Recoil and Needs on Range 2 or more Bullets to kill someone. A Party Crasher +1 or Felwinters Lie (Archtype) need in the most Gunfights ONE BULLET. Most follows a Melee after the Shot. Now Sniper Rifles: Only Aiming and making Kills on every Range Needs not really true Skill. And especially Sniper Rifles has a Basic Aim-Assistance and Perks like "Hidden Hand" which are not available for Shotguns. The Truth is that Fusion Rifles and Sidearms need the most Skill, because with Fusions you have to time the Loading for hiting perfect. And Sidearms need 5-7 Bullets on the Body so you have to spray and aim. When you look how often you killed by Snipers and High Impact Shotguns (PC+1 and FL Archtypes) you will see, why the Question of "Skill with a Special Weapon" is very unimportant and unnecessary. So stop crying about Nerfs or Buffs [b]WITHOUT Proofs[/b]. In the most Situations you lost Gunfights because of Delay, weaker Weapon Stats/Perks against the Enemie Weapon or sometimes you are a Person with a bad Skill with your Weapon. Maybe you should test every Side of the Medal before you cry for buffs or nerfs. This Post isn't a Call of stupid Crybabies or something else. This Post shows you that emotional (Rage-Post, etc.) and permanently Weapon Haters should stop Posting bad and baseless Post about weak/OP Weapons. I hope you (the Reader) understand what i tryed to explain to you, if not, please request me about misleading Informations and Question. Thanks for your Attention. :D[/quote] An average sniper always has more skill than the average shotguner However a very good shot gunner has more skill than the average sniper. (Ever noticed how most really good snipers can both snipe and run shotty. Where as most really good shot gunners cant snipe worth a damn.)

Becasue is just aim at target and shoot, if it doesnt die follow with a melee or primary preferably. Oh wait thats how people uses snipers as well.

Because it doesn't. I swapped from a sniper to a shotgun and it's infinitely easier.

if you have ever played against a good shadestep shotgunner then youll know that it takes skill

every gun need requirements if meet those requirements met then you should get the kill. Some of em need skill,risk ect...... The skill argument is invalid and here is why. Sniper need head shot so on that ppl would say "skill" but it's also safe which they won't say a word on it. Shotguns need positioning and aggressive play style down side is its risky but it's easy to use. Fusion need predictions, charge time and lining your projectiles to target the only advantage it doesn't require crit. The skill gap varies here some ppl can excel with it and some down right suck. Each have a certain requirements so they can get the kill the if you met those requirements you simply out played them. In conclusion Primaries are week and they seriously need a buff somehow without increasing TTK significantly.

I'm a shotgun enthusiast, and you really dropped the ball with this one, there probably 6 steps max that go into it You can't just echo what those people say, you basically told them they where roght that it's a point and shoot weapon, without mentioning the main skill itself, movement

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