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9/15/2016 6:50:01 PM
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Make fusion rifles into a top tier weapon. Improve charge times by 0.25 seconds!
I'm talking across the board. This would certainly make the low impact class like Long Far Gone more viable, but it would have greater effects on the slower fusion rifles like Hitchhiker FR4.
Shotguns dominate in close range. Snipers dominate long range. Do fusion rifles dominate at mid-range? Nope. They need a little something more, and outside of a base range boost this is the best buff they can get!
Are people so afraid of a possible fusion rifle meta? I would welcome that GREATLY... diversity is what keeps this game fresh and fun!
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The charge time has never been an issue( that why you pre-charge ), it the inconsistency of hit detection and the despawn on death that needs fixing. I otherwise rek with the vacancy, people are already starting to call them op now.
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2 RepliesEdited by IIIIIIIIIIIIIII-: 9/15/2016 9:58:14 PMThere are no midrange fusions out there except Vex M and Plan C. Both of them have almost 0 charge time. The rest of the fusions is unusable in pvp. Vex's light level is 170, so plan C is the only choice. Pellets spread cone is enormous, perks like rangefinder and rifled barrel do not help much. Fusions are garbage, there are more efficient weapons in the game. Do I want them back? Yes I do. I want to use Vex M. again.
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1 ReplyEdited by Dexter307: 9/17/2016 6:52:35 PMNo, charge time does NOT need to be changed, it is fine as it is. Use a fast charging fusion with accelerated coils if that is what you want. Change other things if you want to buff them.
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1 ReplyI have to correct myself. Just got this random fusion rifle and it changed my experience. After watching this movie you will understand what mid range is. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/213098082/0/0
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2 RepliesFusion rifles are fine the way they are. https://youtu.be/GvI-rfMvDjc https://youtu.be/aJYJCXfCq9Y https://youtu.be/cbqVyS27yls https://youtu.be/U-PlZMobUqQ https://youtu.be/rZHd4-FhK0w https://youtu.be/8TzetHpd9as https://youtu.be/uIJcdAkttTU https://youtu.be/eDdIdVUnuJs https://youtu.be/7RETE9meQII https://youtu.be/FHj3cFdH7Rw https://youtu.be/h335YqFQJ9Y https://youtu.be/nWVTlbqJOL4
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Edited by Swiftlock: 9/17/2016 8:28:00 PMDiversity keeps the game fresh and fun. Encouraging people to camp corners so they can try to cheaply obliterate enemies in one or two hits with a fast-charging, buffed fusion rifle does not keep the game fresh and fun. This is why they were nerfed the first time.
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Jesus Christ how horrifying.
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I'd rather they make it so the bolts don't disappear upon death.
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Fusions are perfect as of right now.
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My queens bow works just fine at all ranges
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3 RepliesFusions are fine, if they get buffed at all people will start complaining.
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As long as you got an omolon with good range you are good to go... those things dominate in the correct range.
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2 RepliesThe only reason Fusion rilfes don't dominate mid-range was that they were so underpowered for most of the last year and a half..... ...that most PVP players never bothered to learn how to use them well. Those of us who did, can absolutely take the measure of shotgunners and snipers at midrange. The Charge time is how you keep a OHK weapon with fusion rifle range from being op...and it introduces an element of skill (predicting where ecounters will happen, accurately tracking/predicting target movement) to their use.
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2 RepliesCharge rate is not the problem, the nerf fusions got a few months ago completely messed with their range/accuracy. Bolts disappear, your reticle is on someone for the duration of the trigger pull yet there is no damage. So many flaws in the mechanics of fusions. They need to just make bolts more reliable within their intended ranges.
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You clearly have not used a good fusion rifle, pick up plan c cause it's probably a safe bet you don't have a great one. I love the super fast charge time ones, and the 4 bolt kill ones (will destroy pretty much anything you'd encounter in crucible)
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What they need to do is make a pvp level only for fusions and make it so they are uneffected by lag.
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Fusions are actually in a really good place without being super OP. With proper movement and a nice mid charge weapon, you can easily clear a room before someone can pry you out of there. Fusions have dealt with enough, I don't want bungie f[i]u[/i]cking up one of the best weapon classes in the game. Again.
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Charge time and damage are intrinsicallytied
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I feel like only a few of these fusion rifles should have this apply to them because from what I know about fusion rifles are there are 2 types the slow charge long range and accurate and the short charge medium to short range and slightly less accurate I also think that on fusion rifles that already have crazy short charge rate if they get a roll which shortens the charge even further such as accelerated coils should lower the accuracy or range by maybe like .5% but other than that I kinda agree with you.
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