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9/11/2016 5:58:39 PM
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Why destiny is shit: PLOT HOLES

There's really no other way to describe this except a simple list, but let me explain so you don't shit yourselves. [b][i][u]A FEW NOTES[/u][/i][/b] •light and darkness is not a good way to tell a story •not explaining your shit is not good •lovable characters need to exist •good dialogue (which bungie has done before btw) needs to exist •our loot needs to look like loot not these weird pentagon thingy's •things need to be diverse in the way you fight them •things need to be DANGEROUS •loot needs to be GRADIFYING •game should be FUN •your time played shouldn't be huge just because there was something to do •I should have to THINK during fights •I should have to RUN AWAY •I should have to SCAVENGE •I should be able to use my ENVIRONMENT to my ADVANTAGE Destiny has its good points, I do believe that in some respects Rise of Iron is a step in the right direction, why it isn't enough will be discussed in another post. Anyways, onto the plot holes and shitty story elements Bungie failed so miserably in doing right, starting from the base game [b][i][u]BASE GAME 0-0[/u][/i][/b] •what is the traveler made of •is it alive •how did your Dinklebot bring you back to life •what did it do •if I'm awoken, why am I alive on earth •if I'm human, why am I so ugly •how did it do it •why did it do it •why don't the hive or cabal just nuke it out of its low orbit if they can destroy planets •why are there no unaligned fallen •why do no fallen bother to align with you •why don't we just use those robots in the tower to make an army •why doesn't the Rasputin (pronounced Raspooteen or raspewtin if you didn't know) help us with his weird meteor things •what are those weird ball things •why doesn't the speaker tell you anything •why is that clothing lady so useless. I doubt many of you even remember her •what is "light" •what is "darkness" •what's with this magic bullshit the Hive use •magic bullshit even exists •why didn't Rasputin just use those weird meteor things to ice the hellmouth •are there no more war AI's? •why has no one else attacked the sword of Crota •why is everything so easy •who is the exo stranger (which was Okay at the time. But it's three (or two technically) years later and she's no where to be found •how can hive wizards fly? •why is nothing explained •why is my loot in the shape of polygon thingy's •why haven't I seen any other moons other than Luna •what did I do to piss off the Vex. •how do they teleport •how do I teleport •what's my armor made of •are the Vex really that stupid •how do vex reproduce if their robots •why doesn't the Minotaur have a weak point •who is the exo stranger •why Does she have an English accent if she's a robot •why doesn't she explain anything •why does she just bail on you •what's the point? •why can't I make armor out of the metal the vex are made of •why do the awoken have beef with us •why is the house of wolves such a little bitch when you know for a fact a vandal could totally -blam!- up the queen •why is everyone so cryptic •whats the difference between a gate lord and an overgrown Minotaur (or overbuilt?) •how did my ghost teleport that giant ass head from so far away •why do I always spawn in the same place •if it's the darkness zone, why do I respawn in the same place •how does the fallen hierarchy work? •why does no one explain this •what is the vault of glass •what Did I do inside it •why •what did atheon want •who was Kabr and Praedyth •how does gorgon's gaze work •ok I guess no one will tell me •why are the vex such a threat anyways? •why are the cabal so hostile if we don't even really have any beef with each other. •how does the hierarchy of the cabal work •why don't we just send an army into the black garden •why is everything so damn easy •what was that weird dark blobby thingy •why is the music so good but the game sucks •why is the last boss three of the same boss I've fought before. •that's it? •why doesn't the stranger explain anything •why is everything so tanky •why does loot feel so Unsatisfying to get •why are there so many little bitches in the crucible complaining about OP weapons when you could kill them pretty easy with a sniper or shotgun. •how does the crucible thingy work •is it a simulation? •training yards? [b][i][u]DARK BELOW ;([/u][/i][/b] •why does Crota have beef with us? •who are the hive? •how did Erin Morne escape? •who was her squad? •who is Crota? •why don't we bring flashlights? •why don't we send an army? •why are there only three missions? •who are the little bosses? •what did I do in the hellmouth? •how did I do it? •why did I do it? •why can't I ask the general dudes for help? (Vanguards I think?) •why is everything so easy? •why so little added? •why is this all on vanilla content? [b][i][u]HOUSE OF WOLVES ;-;[/u][/i][/b] •why didn't Skolas disobey sooner? •why didn't the other houses help? •who is Skolas? •who is the Queen? •who am I? •why do I care? •what is Skolas's end goal? Like... Long term •why did the house of winter give up so fast •why isn't the reef helping •why aren't those robots helping •why am I the only one doing shit •why is everything going down where I've already been •why aren't the other houses fighting? •why aren't the cabal fighting with us? •why does everyone hate us? •why am I helping the other clans? •how did the vex let the wolves get their technology •how did the fallen get the vex technology •why don't they still have the vex technology •why don't the awoken just gas the prisoners Why do I have to kill the prisoners in the prison of elders •why did I capture Skolas if I just have to kill him later •why don't the vex just teleport out •why don't the vex just erase us from reality [i][u][b]THE TAKEN KING *sob*[/b][/u][/i] •who is the queen •is she dead •who is her brother •is he dead •what is the dreadnought •what was that weapon •what's with the tiny dreadnoughts •who are the hive •if the awoken are so weakened why doesn't oryx just kill them. •why doesn't oryx just take the whole world •why doesn't oryx just attack earth •why doesn't oryx just take the city •why don't we just SEND IN AN ARMY OF ROBOTS •why is there no such thing as WMD's •why has Rasputin appeared so much but all he does is get his ass beat when he has these massive ass WMD weapons he refuses to use when he's clearly about to get maced •why don't we all team up to destroy oryx when he's obviously much more dangerous •how does "taking work" •why isn't all of that robot dudes stuff missing after that long if the fallen are such amazing scavengers •why is Erin's ship so important •if I just got hit by a weapon enough to destroy an entire fleet, why am I still alive •why is everything so easy again •how does this -blam!-ing space magic work and why is it so god damn stupid •what happens to the dreadnought after I killed oryx? •who is Cayde-6, the one who gives me bounties or the one who gives me mail? [b][i][u]TBC[/u][/i][/b]

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  • I'll wait til the movie comes out, I ain't reading this book!

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    • You wasted your time writing this about a video game you dislike. Good job.

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      • The Destiny franchise is planned to span ten years. We're barely done with two. Patience, grasshopper.

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        • These are the types of conversations found in this thread: Reply to Op [quote]Inb4 lore nerds come out and try to excuse the incredibly void in game world. [u][b][i]Gamers nowadays are so stupid - they will buy and support anything that's "fun".[/i][/b][/u][/quote] OP's reply to ^ [quote]You deserve a trophy dude, you didn't fall for their bullshit :3 *gives digital cookie*[/quote] My reply to both [quote]Who would support something they consider "fun"? This whole thread wins the trophy for dumbest f*cking people on the Internet.[/quote]

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            this is hilarious :))))

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            • Edited by Ahhsenberg: 9/11/2016 6:28:19 PM
              Inb4 lore nerds come out and try to excuse the incredibly void in game world. Gamers nowadays are so stupid - they will buy and support anything that's "fun".

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              • I think u need to put the game aside, play something else, get laid, get on with your life, etc

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                • Why are you seeking logic in a video game in the first place? How many titles can you name off that actually do provide you with that much information?

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                  • If you paid attention in the game literally all of these questions are answered.

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                    • Destiny has a plot? There is one buried in there somewhere. Implementation could have been better.

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                    • Yawn.........

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                      • Bad b8 m8 0/8

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                        • #shitpost

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                        • Dude,.. with the lead writer fired about 7 months prior to release and the hiring of some random dude to write the "Grimoire cards" while the original story was whacked to pieces, what did you expect? see, the entire game so far, including Oryx , Crota Atheon and such were IN THE GAME, inside a complex story.. and now its all been cut to pieces and sold separately since the stupidio couldnt find a way to publish the original story in a matter that the consoled would have allowed it.. the entire game is breathing this failiure.. the iconic sentence "why is the city breathing down my neck" .. hell the whole scene was even removed from the game .. and has not being putback into the game so far.. Mercury went from a public space that was supposed to be important to a puny little sidekick, as a trophylocation in ToO.. Osiris was taken out of the game entirely.. Crow was put back into the game as an unimportant brother of the queen. The Undying Mind Story mission that lead to the past and future vex has been rehashed as a meaningless strike, almost EVERY reasoning and backstory has been deleted .. and you are talking about plot holes? the entire plot is GONE, what you can still see are some "plot islands".. that have survived.. seasrch the internet.. kotaku has some neat and detailed descriptions of early playtesters that tell you parts of the original story.. maybe they can start the story in Destiny 2 .. who knows.. i hope bungie got their share of bucketloads of hate and disgust for destroying a story, written by the lead writer of HALO and turning it into a "go there shoot everything" desaster..

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                          • You clearly don't know how good story telling works if you think that you have to be given all that information. Part of the allure of a fantasy like this game is having mystical and mysterious elements that you don't understand. Don't get me wrong, the storytelling in this game isn't that good, but not for the reasons you think it isn't.

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                          • You'll find out when you've thrown enough money at your screen.

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                            • You are "home-schooled" aren't you?

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                              • This is gonna be long. -Light and Darkness, or "ideal vs ideal" or arguably "man vs ideal" are one of the avenues that make up all created stories. (Man vs Man, Man vs Nature, etc.) -Things are explained in the Grimoire -Amanda Holliday and Cayde-6 are plenty lovable. (Could use more though) -TTK cutscenes and even pre-mission and strike dialogue is drastically better than pre-TTK (Will be even better in ROI / D2) -You need to read the lore on engrams. It's a phase of matter, not a "pentagon thingy" -Raids are pretty diverse. You can shoot or slice or blow things up too. You can turn invisible and slice and dice enemies, or cover them in miniature suns. You can even just put up a wall and laugh at your enemies. -Danger to save files has no place in a grinding game. There really isn't any other "danger" a video game can provide. -Nothing is more gratifying then finally getting to max light / tier 12 / God roll on favorite gun. -Destiny is fun if you have friends or like grinding MMO games. If not, then you're judging an apple with an orange as a standard. -I don't understand "time playing shouldn't be huge just because there was something to do." People chill and play soccer or have fashion contests when they don't want to do grinding stuff. -I had to think a lot during the raids (the first time at least.) -Lost to Light and Crota's Funeral mission (also when shit gets real in raids) -Try playing during a Juggler week. You'll be scavenging if you aren't careful. -Cover (environment) is always important. Plus there's always those exploding things to shoot. Base Game: -Grimoire Crota's End: -Grimoire House of Wolves: -Grimoire The Taken King: -Grimoire Not as long as I thought since the answer to 80% of this is in the Grimoire. If you can't read what is given to you, then you really shouldn't be complaining. Reading the Grimoire is as easy as reading the forums. You can also use the app. [spoiler]OP prefers to be spoonfed.[/spoiler]

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                                • You're one of those fun suckers aren't ya?

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                                  • lol no

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                                    • Holy crap, you have put way too much thought into this post. That's a lot of wasted brain cells .

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                                      • If you want to read a story book then put down your controller and pick up a book! If you want to play a video game then pick up your controller and play. You put way too much time into coming up with that wall of text that you forgot that this is a video game and not a book. Play the game as a video game and you will enjoy it better! The game will give you the information you need to complete it when you need it. If you go and search for a story as to why then you are missing the point of a video game, and that is to play and have fun. I am pretty sure you do not go to an arcade to play a shooter game and look for the story right? They make games for people that look for the story first but destiny is not one of them. Some say that it should be but if I was made to sit through cut scenes after cut scenes or have to read a book to get to the next level I would find another game to play. Life is strange is a game like that.

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                                        • Read the Grimoire, lots of context in there. If you want a survival gane, play Fallout. If you want loot to look like loot, play Goldeneye.

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                                          • Ok, just want to say Uldren and Mara are alive. Mara is kinda missing-ish, but still alive be somehow

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                                            • OP you have more time invested in this post than the actual game lmao. Thanks for the mute option Bungie.

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                                              • I agree that Destiny should tell it's story in game but, most of these question are answered in the grimore. My biggest issue story wise are the missed opportunities. For example: Did you know that Cayde 6 is only the hunter Vanguard because the previous was killed by Taniks, that boss of the HoW strike on the moon? He stays in the position because of his friendship/ respect for the previous guy. Yet there is no mention at all in game of it and you go on to kill Taniks for a completely unrelated reason with no mention of his relationship with Cayde. Seriously, it's like the design team doesn't even know their own game

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