Use a fusion and a HROF scout. Personally this has worked for me tremendously. Basically what I do is I stay patient. I don't rush shotgunners even with a fusion because they can just slide shotgun under all your bolts and you have to charge up again. Wait for them and charge with out aiming and aim when the charge is almost complete if that makes sense. Sometimes you can when they are far from the corner but most of the time no. [b]--------------------------------------------------[/b] Their literally is no true counter to snipers from far but you can compete in some cases. I hate to say it but @Bungie give those snipers a bit more flinch cause not even my high ROF can keep them busy sometimes. All jokes aside HROF scouts actually can compete and I'm not talking about mida kids. I'm talking about Suros Dis-47 archetype. They do lack in a bit damage but from experience they annoy the hell out snipers, but against a decent sniper..not even a good sniper they can be lack worth. I swear sometimes I blow the opposing snipers eyes out and they still end up killing me. Ever since that mida Nerf. Snipers have roamed then crucible with no real counter and it sucks. [b]--------------------------------------------------[/b] Nerfing snipers and shotguns won't do anything but make the crucible even worse then what it is. Believe it or not shotguns have been dead and beaten on for so long and people still want nerfs. A real life shotgun would smash a destiny shotgun of their ever was a case like that. So if you're still dying by shotguns that's your fault. Completely... [b]--------------------------------------------------[/b] Snipers don't need a Nerf but primary's need to hit harder against them. I can't tell you how many times I've died to a sniper when they literally have a centimeter of health. [b]--------------------------------------------------[/b] Also another point I want to get across to is. Get off the meta please. I know it's what works but you need to see what people like me are experiencing. I tend to stay away from what everyone else is using and it works sometimes. Start spreading love about the weapons that are lacking. Nerfing weapons isn't an never was the answer. In some cases in year 1 yes but now no. If you are still roaming the forums with Nerf post. Get good please..At this point we have no variety and you want to Nerf what we have left instead of buffing what needs it..Typical Nerf herders [b]--------------------------------------------------[/b] [quote]To add to this, I actually find that the right combo of getting the first shot off and strafing like mad will mess up most snipers from afar (most; not all). Just make sure you're sliding/jumping around corners and into common sightlines rather than sprinting at head-level - that'll likely take away more than half of your sniper woes[/quote] -------------------------------------------------- [b][u]I know this probably won't make it anywhere but start a hashtag called #BuffAnSaveDestiny. The developers probably already know or they don't but just in case please spread awareness and donate one hashtag BuffAnSaveDestiny to save it. [/u][/b] Thanks for reading #BuffAnSaveDestiny