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Edited by Snow:
8/9/2016 5:49:13 PM
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Right, but of course there are always exceptions.
But the point remains, take VoG for instance; what were the two main weapons? VoC and Fatebringer. Sure, people used Timepiece and Epilogue, but that number is small compared to those two. Same with Crota's End, people used WoC and FoIY more than others. Don't even get me started on PoE elemental primaries.
All of those with elemental burns and only a few were widely used. It's not the burn that attracts people to the weapons, it's the weapon itself with the right stats and perks.
And regardless if every single person used it, it's a PvE end game reward, why shouldn't it be strong for PvE?
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Sorry but thats just bs. People used them because of the elemental burn. Statswise they werent that special. Perks are good indeed. But loadouts are chosen for each situation, I had every possible weapon with every possible burn in year one and these weapons were better for every pve fight than a non elemental one.
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Edited by Snow: 8/9/2016 5:58:55 PM[quote]I had every possible weapon with every possible burn in year one and these weapons were better for every pve fight than a non elemental one.[/quote] So you just destroyed your own argument. You weren't forced to use one weapon. And again, of course they were better. They're end game PvE rewards.
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No. Its still a subset of a Very large pool of weapons. Non elemental weapons are just inferior and that shouldnt be
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Yes, sure they're inferior. Look at all the people using Timepiece. Because it's the Arc Burn that makes it superior, right?
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Fatebringer>timepiece in pve so timepiece is not used. Auto rifles and pulse rifles have always been outmatched by scout rifles and hand cannons.
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And you're saying it has absolutely nothing to do with the perks?
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Perks always play a role in how good a weapon is. Elemental burns just make them even better. All scout rifles can have the same perks but not all have elemental burns. That makes non elemental primaries inferior. I dont want that. Next to the fact that the game is already easy so adding elemental weapons again makes it even easier. So I rather not have elemental primaries in the dlc
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Edited by Snow: 8/9/2016 11:19:55 PMAgain, that's just simply not the case. Take PoE. Nobody used the elemental weapons from it. I'll give you a hint as to why; [spoiler]Shank Burn[/spoiler] Again, perks always determine the popular weapon. You can't really ruin diversity when everything is RNG. As for the game being too easy, yes. It is, I agree. However, nobody is forcing you to use the weapons. Now if you take KF raid; "must have ToM or BS, etc". The game will always have a popular load out, no matter what. Even all of this aside, why not a material to give any legendary a burn? That way you can continue using whatever you like without feeling handicapped.
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Edited by PinO iZ SiK: 8/9/2016 11:33:51 PMI can agree on the last part. I rather not have elemental burns but that would be the best solution if they were included. Poe weapons were not that good. We already had better weapons(vog, trials and crota) with burns so they were not used. If we wouldn't than they would be used, pretty sure about that. Popular loadouts is inevitable and not a problem imo. Its just that the game should give you lots of viable option for encounters. Elemental burns reduce that imo. Just like gjally did in year one. It was better than truth even in weeks with void burn in the nf. So I was glad it got nerfed and other weapons were viable again although gjally still ruled
