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7/1/2016 7:46:20 PM
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Why Sniper Aim Assist is NOT op....
Ok so ive seen again and again.. Snipers are OP!! Need nerf now!! Stop defending your crutches!! Aim assist takes no skill on snipers!! Here i am going to disprove that.
Now, my definition( and many others ) definitions of OP is... A weapon or class that has NO counters and takes very little skill to use, thereby resulting in easy kills. I play sniper all the time!! I for one, know that snipers do take a lot of skill to master, and have counters!! Let me list a few.
Sliding into a chokepoint
Hawksaw
Doctrine of Passing
Nirwin's Mercy
Shotguns
Shoulder Charge
Supers
Fusion Rifles
And many more counters can be inferred! Snipers only have "easy" kills when the person is standing still!!
So, snipers are DEFINITELY not OP.
Aim Assist:
Aim Assist ON SNIPERS does NOT, i repeat NOT have any bullet magnetism. Try it out!! Look at it, only when Lag takes place is any situation otherwise. Aim assist, therefore, does not take "Skill" out of the game. The reason it was added is because, well, try sniping you teammates, or anything else with no aim assist, pretty hard, right?
Therefore, snipers are not OP.
Before trying to disprove my statement, ask yourself, have you ever used a sniper? Are you A GOOD sniper? (Meaning 90% of your kills are headshots, and 90% of your shots are kills) If not, dont complain. This is also a purely competitive standpoint. Casuals may disagree, whatever. Who cares. Everyone has an opinion. When i disprove you, realize im not saying you have no opinion, im saying your FACTS that you THINK you have are wrong.
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Edited by A Tigerstorm: 7/3/2016 12:27:03 AMYeah like there's a counter when all I see is 11 red lights in a single hallway. And I'm a Sunbreaker using a fusion rifle....
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Assist is pretty misleading in this debate. Like aim assist does little changes. Yes there are differences from extreme low and high ones but I don't think that is he problem
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3 RepliesLet's remove all guns aim assist and make the game really fun
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2 RepliesI use a sniper, even under fire they're still too easy to hit with
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I had to train for weeks to be a halfway decent sniper. So I feel ya.
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Edited by Kidy97: 7/2/2016 11:49:14 PMAim assist slow the reticle when you get close to the head or the body
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Snipers aren't OP because high impact scouts exist.
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3 Repliesaa increases hit boxes and slows aim down. Op has a 75 aa longbow and tries to defend that it's not op.
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The problem with aa is the fact it differs so much from weapon to weapon & it can be changed too easily.
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My major problem is that it's not just one person using them. It's 2-6 players making a totem pole of scope glare. When you have 5 people scoped in I guarantee you that no matter what you do you're dead. Either one lands a headshot or you take roughly 800 damage in body shots immediately (killing literally everything).
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People just get pissed at snipers because there a 1 shot kill from extra ranges in a game that is "supposed" to have lower ttk. Anytime you get a 1 hit kill gun it's going to be the favorite of tenders try hards, and competitive players. meaning casuals like me get very annoyed by people pulling of "should be impossible" snipes. Nothing to Nerf it's just how the game works. [spoiler] although I have seen a few sniper montages where they clearly miss and it counts, but we'll say is lag[/spoiler]
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5 RepliesWhile I agree with alot of your points I can honestly say snipers are by a good distance to easy to use, I am a complete scrub in pvp I absolutely suck and have little to no gun skill or situational awareness yet everytime I pull out a longbow or my 1000 yard I go off on ridiculous runs of kills and I can hand on heart say that the majority of those headshot kills were not even close to being true headshots and that's without things like hidden hand as perks, I fully understand your argument and you are probably a very skilled sniper but the fact remains in this game even scrubs like me find sniping far to easy
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I honestly think snipers need and aim assist nerf by about 10 each but aim assistance is needed for console it always will so I support your post 100%
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1 ReplyWhile AA does not offer bullet magnetism, it does slow down the scope speed when aiming for a body/ head when drag scoping giving you an advantage. I personally like snipers even though im garbage with them. I am a huge fan of the eirene and that is usually what I main( due to its low AA value)... however, I do get more headshots and sniper kills with my 1K stare so I can see the appeal( i actually have switched recently in IB to increase special kills) . I dont think AA needs to be removed, I do, however believe that AA needs to be lowered some. Especially on the higher AA snipers.
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Reduce bodyshot damage and add more flinch. Problem solved
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1 ReplyDisproved nothing, idiot, muted.
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3 RepliesTotally agree about aim assist. If AA did everything people claim it does, then even I would be a decent sniper and I'm nowhere close lol. Not gonna lie, I wouldn't mind seeing body shot damage get reduced. Maybe have 2 shots bring you down to what 1 does currently. So 2 body shots then 1 primary. I mean Its supposed to be a precision weapon so you should be rewarded for head shots. It just seems way to easy to body body, or body primary for a kill... Even I can do that lol.
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Disagree. When is the last time u saw a sniper's head snap back while aiming down his scope while he's taking rounds to the face. I have nothing against snipers but b honest, that's why a lot more guardians are using them. And I use a sniper, never come of reticle unless I die, not while taking hits
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Snipers and primaries are completely different things. Shooting through flinch will not be a fixed issue if primaries are buffed. Walking around corners without sway and getting instant headshots in less than a second is not going to be fixed. People need to look at the actual issues instead of following what everyone else is saying.
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Pffft.
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[quote] Sliding into a chokepoint Hawksaw Doctrine of Passing Nirwin's Mercy Shotguns Shoulder Charge Supers Fusion Rifles [/quote] Are you serious? You're a troll for even suggesting that these are counters to snipers long range, lock on bullshit.
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3 Replies[spoiler]your wrong[/spoiler]
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You just suck at sniping I guess
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0 likes Name is snipes take skills Troll post detected
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3 RepliesFor no reason ever in the history of PvP should there be a "Stickiness" factor of a snipers reticle on somebodies head. I should not get sniped in the head while I am shooting the sniper in the face that is just wrong! The current state of the crucible makes sniper play a safe fall back op gun. Sorry you are wrong. Your opinion other wise stands for you and only you.
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We are comparing to other games!
