I'll show you what shotgun I'm talking about and why it is so good.
It is:
[u]Her Champion[/u]
The base stats of Her Champion are listed on the left and the numbers to the right are the stats of the Party Crasher
Rate of fire: 5<[b]11[/b]
Impact: [b]67[/b]>64
Range: 17<[b]24[/b]
Stability: 41=41
Reload: 29=29
My Her Champion's perks:
[u]ballistics:[/u]
-Linear Compensator
-Aggressive Ballistics
[u]Middle Column perks [/u]
-High Caliber Rounds
-Oiled frame
-flared mag-well
[u]Instinctive perks[/u]
-Full Auto
-Final round
[b] Out of the Ballistic options and the Middle Perk Tree options, I use Linear Compensator and Oiled frame[/b]
[b][i][u]Why is it the best PVE shotgun?[/u][/i][/b]
Because of it's massive damage output. Full auto increases the fire rate, Final round gives a 33% damage boost on the last bullet of the Magazine and Oiled frame makes reloading a breeze. It chews up swarms of mobs, it tears though Majors and it can even deal massive damage to some ultras, such as the Psion Flayers and Omnigul. It does have much worse range than the Party Crasher so you'll have to get closer to enemies but with Full Auto and a snappy fast reload from Oiled frame, you'll be just fine when you're getting mobbed by ads, or if a major is charging you or if you're farming Omnigul or if you just need to melt a Psion Flayer.
[b]Can you find a better PVE shotgun than this monster of mine?? Tell me down in the comments below and I'll take a look. Make sure you explain why it is better so that I can understand your choice.
[u]EDIT:[/u]What I am looking for is,
-The perks of the shotgun
-The name of the shotgun
-Why the shotgun is better
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[b]EDIT #2: Please read the title next time, I am talking about PVE only so any Y1 shotgun will not be accepted as a viable argument. [/b]
Now you all had a lot to say. Now, in response to your comments, I will now begin my counter arguments. I'll take on Invective, seeing as it was mentioned the most frequently out of all of the shotguns mentioned. Lord of Wolves will be next up. (Now just a note, when I am referring to the Her Champion, it can be extended to other higher impact shotguns such as Party Crasher and Conspiracy theory D.)
Invective has the best name of any secondary weapon in destiny, hands down, Invective (noun) means, "Insulting, abusive or highly critical language. [i]'he let out a steam of invective'[/i]" Invective is great for mobs of ads but it's low magazine size of 4 means that you'll be reloading often. It just makes it fall short of being viable. If you don't have a good legendary shotgun, then Invective will do but you have better options available to you. For single target DPS, Invective cannot compete with any harder hitting shotgun with full Auto, or even another shotgun of it's archetype. Burden of proof, next big thing, the shotgun from Dead Orbit, with full auto on any of those three shotguns, they all beat Invective because they have more ammo in the magazine. If Invective gets a buff to it's magazine size of 4, we'll have a different story but it falls flat. Sorry Invective, you lost.
[u]The Lord of Wolves[/u]
The Lord of Wolves is a very unique exotic and is the only burst fire shotgun. It fires a 5 round burst and holds up to 109 ammo (although, if we counted each 5 round burst as one normal shotgun blast, it would be more like ~21 rounds). When compared to Her Champion, it has a faster fire rate of 11, an almost identical impact of 64, a shorter range of 5 (but with a 5 round burst, it can out range the Her Champion), a lower stability of 12 and a slower reload stat of 22, but due to the weapon's unique design, it reloads much like an auto rifle and has a faster reload than the Her Champion.
It's exotic perk, Devil's touch, adds 3+ recovery per kill (does not stack) and lasts for 30 seconds. The stats don't sound good on paper but in practice, the Lord of Wolves shreds. The 5 round burst staggers targets like crazy and provides easy kills. The only two things that the Her Champion has on Lord of Wolves is a higher reload stat (not speed but stat) of 43 and a higher stability of 31.
The only other concerns I have with this weapon are that it's an exotic (a petty concern), and that the Devil's touch perk isn't really good. 3+ recovery is okay but you have to be close to your allies to utilize this. The only two places that I could imagine this being useful is in the Challenge of Elders, where you usually are very close to your allies, and in other boss fights. I don't see utility in this for the raid because the Her Champion, or any legendary shotgun, would be better if you just need those Phalanxes gone (in the beginning of the raid.)
However, all concerns aside, the Lord of Wolves clearly wins. It still has more ammo than the Her Champion (18 rounds compared to ~21 bursts), and it's uniqueness and sexy design make for an enjoyable shooting experience. It's 5 round burst is more effective at stunning targets than any shotgun with high caliber rounds.
[b][u][i]We have a new champion and it's the Lord of Wolves. Now, the Her Champion will take on the 4th Horseman tomorrow and the winner will fight the Lord of Wolves the next day. Tune in tomorrow and see the results.[/i][/u][/b]
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My party crasher has 34 range. I think you're just comparing 2 you have.
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I'm the one who said lord of wolves lol.
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1 ReplyEdited by The Warden: 6/30/2016 2:56:22 PMYay the Lord of Wolves reigns supreme! If Her Champion wins, will it fight LoW again?
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It depends what areas of pve you're talking about. Almost 80% of pve enemies can be one or two shot by just about any shotgun. And those that can't? You really wanna get up close and personal with them?
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Found Verdict forever.
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2 RepliesLord of Wolves is the ghorn of shotguns. The things it can do to majors is brutal. I need to get my hands on the year two version. I loved it so much I practically ran with it as my primary.
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1 ReplyComedian Rescue Mag Single Point Sling Performance Bonus Never out of ammo... Ever
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2 RepliesYou forgot to mention that even though HC's reload speed stat is faster, LoW will still reload faster because of it's in game model.
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1 ReplyThe real question is does anyone care about pve? The way bungie let pve go to hell any shotgun works who cares.
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3 RepliesInvective. Done.
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5 RepliesI still love Invective. full auto, nice range, and free reserve ammo over time. at the moment my legendary guns out rank my exotics so I can get away using it.
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Stolen will with full auto , final round, and a good stability role; so you can land all of your shots.
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5 RepliesYeah I'm sure Lord of Wolves is the best PvE shotty
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2 RepliesEdited by monsterduc1000: 6/29/2016 9:34:32 AMConspiracy theory with field choke, full auto, stability and last resort. Great in both pve and PvP. It's equipped on my titan if you want to check it out.
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1 ReplyThe Fourth Horseman. Countless Majors will fall on their knees in front of you.
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PvE: Snipers > Fusion Rifles > Shotguns
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8 RepliesWho uses shotguns I pve? I'd kick you from my raid group.
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7 RepliesUmm... Fourth Horseman? Duh. #TitanMasterRace
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3 RepliesI'm pretty sure anything could be better than that (my opinion). An unpopular choice is Chaperone, and I think it's quite viable with its Roadborne perks. Hell even 4th Horseman.
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2 RepliesYou obviously have forgotten that the lord of the wolves is a shotgun bub. In pve it has no rival.
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Burden of proof from new monarchy vendor Before the April update, it was sold with full auto, and a bunch of other perks (full auto is all that matters). This thing melts anything in PVE, I use it for strikes and it competes with the raze-lighter damage wise.
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8 RepliesEdited by JosusChrust: 6/28/2016 8:22:05 AMCheck the Dry Rot 32 on my Warlock.. its a legendary 4th Horseman. Accurized ballistics Full auto Smallbore Luck in the chamber
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Patch a is my go to if not invective
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8 RepliesDid he say ever? Found Verdict disagrees with you. [i]~INDY[/i]
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1 ReplySo the PC fires twice as fast, does nearly the same damage per shot, and has 1.5x the range. And it's somehow inferior to your shotty because you have perks that make it almost as good as PC? If you compared your so-called "God roll" shotty to a vanilla PC with zero perks, it's barely better. You did know that PC gets perks on it too, right?
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Conspiracy theory everyone has is the best y2 shotgun.