What type of pulse rifle is best for pvp? I currently use medium rate of fire, nirwens mercy, the villainy. But is high rate of fire or low rate of fire better?
It seems like with a low rate of fire if you miss a burst your going to get punished but all 3 types are a 3 burst kill.
Thank you to everyone for your comments. Seems like I may have to re think my choice of pulse rifle.
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Hawksaw
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Definitely the Messenger. Or Red Death. Probably Spare change as well.
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1 ReplyI have the best luck with mid-high to high rate. So Herja, Hawksaw, Grasp of Malok, Oversoul Edict and such usually serve me well and are forgiving. (Can't speak for the Suros rifles, but they look good on paper.) Low ROF rifles are deadly in the right hands, but will reward you with your own death if you miss a burst. ;-) For PVE I favor the low ROF pulse rifles. A Lyudmila was my highest light primary for a long time, it saw me through some tough times!
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I personally am a huge fan of the reflection sum But people say the hawksaw is beast.. but Idk
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Uhh aegis of the reef is pretty awesome or hawksaw or suros pdx 45
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2 RepliesHawksaw or Pdx, preferably full auto If you can farm it the grasp of malok is the best
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grasp, followed closely by hawksaw and equivalent RoF/impact pulses.
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14 RepliesHopscotch Pilgrim #neverforget
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Grasp
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3 RepliesHawksaw and pdx 45 are the best pulse rifles and thats just a fact. Just like doctrine is the best auto. And mida the best scout
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Edited by Prof Sheitbag: 6/7/2016 10:32:16 PMBack in September when TTK dropped, my first crucible package was a Hawksaw with Hidden Hand, Fitted Stock and Rifled Barrel. I can cross map with barely any kick, and the gun turns everyone into bobble heads. I got a PDX-45 with HCR's, Hidden Hand and Rifled Barrel, and the poor gun still doesn't have the range my Hawksaw does. The HCR's really do nothing for me either: crits still do the same dmg, and the TTK is still roughly the same. The only difference is the dmg falloff at range is significant - so much so I stopped using it and went back to my Hawksaw. I also started a new toon for kicks just to f*ck around with in PvP - been using a PSI UMBRA III uncommon PR with rangefinder. Having a blast with it, too ;-). I love how ppl seem to think you need a certain gun to get anywhere in PvP.
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I miss the old 2 bangers like hopscotch and messenger. Reactive reload😍
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2 RepliesAegis on my Titan is pretty nice / decent
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Pdx 41 ftw.
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Everyone says high rate of fire beats all....that's a panic situation at best. I've never had issue killing against any gun archetype with my red death. With the travel of the barrel learn to aim chest high and you won't miss.
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Red death
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Bad Juju
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Is the vendor villainy worth picking up? Or even with the "god roll" it doesn't compete with the others (hawksaw)?
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Grasp of Malok is easily the best for me
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4 RepliesAfter trying everything, I still prefer the one on my titan. Spare Change Counter balance Perfect balance Feeding freenzy Would prefer more stability in middle slot, but I still am able to get a 2 burst kill or so every game. The range is phenomenal.
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Edited by jnikoley: 6/6/2016 11:57:11 PMBased purely on fastest Time to Kill (TtK), the faster Rate of Fire (RoF), the better. Among Y2 (335) pulse rifles, Grasp of Malok has the fastest RoF/TtK. TtK for GoM is .8 seconds. Hawksaw/PDX-45 type pulses are the next fastest RoF with a TtK of .87 seconds. The slowest firing/highest impact pulses like spare change can rarely two burst an underarmored/low light guardian for a slightly faster TtK, but if you miss a headshot, they kill too slowly, and you'll lose to a faster firing pulse. Here's a link to a spreadsheet with TtKs you can check for yourself: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GtrNjOBJddXWzXh3rf45eED31XoyfYFUX71JU32tg2E/htmlview#
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2 RepliesEdited by SERAPH-X7: 6/6/2016 11:40:14 PMTimepiece, Grasp of Malok, Aegis of the Reef and Hacksaw. Then there's the PDX 41 and 45 but I'm not familiar with how they handle... Edit: Also, Oversoul Edict.
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Evergreen II.I It may be an old blue gun but its exotic tier status.
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3 RepliesI've got a good spare change with counter balance, third eye and braced frame. I r8 8/8
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3 RepliesWarlock melee
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Grasp of Malok archetype, then hawsaw archetype.