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A biased IGN Review of BC2...

Ok, I have watched this review many times, from different points of view, and it is hard not to get frustrated. You feel like you want to go and tell Eric or whatever that he is [i]wrong[/i], and needs to view the game objectively, instead of from a MW2 fanboy perspective. [url=http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/107/1072632p1.html]IGN Bad Company 2 Review[/url] Once you've watched the video and read the review, how can you not almost laugh at the things he is saying? "Matches ending abruptly when you win..."? What -blam!-ing game doesn't "abruptly end" when you win? That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in a review. "DICE seems to have taken a que from MW2 and tried for a large cinematic scope...". WHAT? MW2 has a cinematic feel to it, but nothing about it really feels "large". It always feels like you are being herded through straight paths towards the terrorists, Sgt. Foley shouting "RAMIREZ, CALL IN THE NUKE!" And if the nonstop action "hurts the cinematic feel they are trying to go for", how do you know they are going for a cinematic feel? What if they just want to make the campaign an epic action experience, with a coolish story tied in? Very contradictory IMO... And then it is the stupid thing, "you are a super rambo soldier who can activate any vehicle". Eric, STOP PLAYING THE SNOWMOBILE SECQUENCE FROM MW2, AND REALIZE THAT HALF OF THIS GAME IS ABOUT VEHICLES! What is DICE supposed to do? Make you go through training every time you spot a new vehicle? Just get your mind around the fact that this game is vehicle oriented, and stop complaining on "how is my soldier supposed to know how to drive all of these things?" And then, the complaining comes to the "shortness" of the campaign. "6 hours" in Eric's personal opinion is much too short, where he, being the MW2 expert he is, could probably blow through the MW2 campaign on normal from 3 1/2 - 4 hours. If you mark off for a "short" campaign, than shouldn't MW2 be hammered by an objective review for it's extremely short campaign? Guess not. He keeps comparing the two, so why does he throw in the "short" blast... And another thing, campaign really is just an extra part of this game, but what everybody will be doing is the multiplayer. So why spend so much time on the campaign which is somewhat irrelevant to the game, yet so little on the epic multiplayer experience at hand. Also, you [i]know[/i] this guys is a CoD fanatic when he mentions SPECIALIZATIONS as "PERKs". And they work "similar to that of in CoD"? Right, because realistic specializations (i.e. lightweight clothing/grenade vest) work a lot like "OMGZ I CAN RUN 25 MPH AND LUNGE THE LENGHT OF THE FOOTBALL FIELD, AND I TAKE A SPECIAL PILL SO I CAN EAT BULLETS FOR BREAKFAST NAM NAM NAM" *facepalm* Now, it is hard to look at this review objectively for me because I am a huge fan of the Battlefield franchise, but it just disappointing me when a site as acclaimed as IGN puts out a review that is simply, biased. And the fact that Bad Company's 2 sound got a 9/10 is just the end of the line. If the fake and computer generated sounds of MW2 gets a 10, and the HDR audio system used by DICE in this game gets a 9, then I don't know what to say to IGN. /rant Thoughts? ~RoKKeR~
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkGunner93 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ODST123 Hey guys, someone from the EA UK community created [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pnRdVZZkcI]video[/url] .[/quote] I saw that earlier xD There seems to be a Hitler video for every subject in the world now. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sweetgirl12 I just hate it when everyone bashes somebody/something else for no good reason. It just makes me so angry. i like BC2 but you fanboys just really annoy me.[/quote] You said that you don't have to play Bad Company 2 to know that it's worse than MW2. Who's the fanboy? MW2 was an enjoyable game, but got boring really quickly.[/quote] I'm not a fanboy but if you pick on something that doesn't deserve to be picked on i will fight you and i will win. "but got boring really quickly" Like this comment every game gets boring,just how fast is up to the player,not the game. If you don't want it to get boring use some imagination. For example i got so bored on BC1 once i decided to go dog-tag hunting.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sweetgirl12 I just hate it when everyone bashes somebody/something else for no good reason. It just makes me so angry. i like BC2 but you fanboys just really annoy me.[/quote]I admit that I might have gone a bit over the edge. So I'm gonna go and have a smoke now to calm myself down and com back here to talk about this in a civilazed way. IF anyone is capable of doing that with me.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ODST123 Hey guys, someone from the EA UK community created [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pnRdVZZkcI]video[/url] .[/quote]"Send DICE a cake." *bursts into laughter*

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FinalKing23 Well, everyone has their opinions and they're free to enjoy them. Regardless of what IGN says, the game will be very well received and sell like hot cakes and hookers. I've had my say. Good afternoon, gents.[/quote] True. I think I'm gonna back out of this thread as well now, it's getting exhausting.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkGunner93 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FinalKing23 It has to due with it failing to contribute to the epic feel. The weapons and vehicle use is just a contributing factor, mentioned in the SAME paragraph.[/quote] Ohh okay, then good point. I just don't think the review sounded like it deserved 8.9. This thread is just repeating the same thing over and over again now though.[/quote] Well, everyone has their opinions and they're free to enjoy them. Regardless of what IGN says, the game will be very well received and sell like hot cakes and hookers. I've had my say. Good afternoon, gents.

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  • I detect a BC 2 fanboy.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ODST123 Hey guys, someone from the EA UK community created [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pnRdVZZkcI]video[/url] .[/quote] I saw that earlier xD There seems to be a Hitler video for every subject in the world now. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sweetgirl12 I just hate it when everyone bashes somebody/something else for no good reason. It just makes me so angry. i like BC2 but you fanboys just really annoy me.[/quote] You said that you don't have to play Bad Company 2 to know that it's worse than MW2. Who's the fanboy? MW2 was an enjoyable game, but got boring really quickly. [Edited on 02.27.2010 11:20 AM PST]

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  • I just hate it when everyone bashes somebody/something else for no good reason. It just makes me so angry. i like BC2 but you fanboys just really annoy me.

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  • Exactly Bad Company 2 = more realistic In mw2 when you have painkiller for like over 10 seconds you are almost invincible its like oh there is a chopper gunner out there oh well my painkiller is still on so i will run out there and get shot 30 times by bullets big enough to blow a hole through my stomach and i will still live things like this prove MW2 = unrealistic shooter same with dual wielding shotguns but besides that and a lot more problems Mw2 is somewhat realistic

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  • EDIT: Forget this post. Forgot to quote :/ [Edited on 02.27.2010 11:17 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sweetgirl12 I don't know how answer that. I was just proving the red dot is visual better in MW2 than it is in BC2. In Bc2 its more suited to a cartoon[/quote] Lol, it looks exactly like CoD4's red dot. And when I started playing MW2, I was like "damn, this red dot looks dumb as hell". I guess what I'm trying to say is who gives a damn what it looks like. You get used to it in a couple games.

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  • Hey guys, someone from the EA UK community created this[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pnRdVZZkcI]video[/url] . [Edited on 02.27.2010 11:31 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sweetgirl12 No it hasn't Same old range of vehicles.[/quote]I can't disagree to that totally, but you have to admit they have made some changes (nerfing the AA-gun, quad bike etc.) [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sweetgirl12 Some stolen ideas from Infinity's view on modern warfare.[/quote]Such as? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sweetgirl12 Stole the perks idea. [/quote]So what you basically are saying is, that if some developer uses a certain feature in a game, no other can use it. Besides, in MW2 the perks changed [b]everything[/b], but in BC2 they only give you small limited new options. (And atleast they are realistic in BC2)

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xo u2 rokker [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jonfrog91 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sweetgirl12 [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXGcKDo6b_w[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KTK9xuHfc[/url] [/quote] so is this your way of saying that haha i was right the game does have red dot and weapon upgrades, because i have to tell you that it was a failed attempt. i want you to know that you can not upgrade weapons in the game, the weapons already have them. so the weapon the guy was using happen to be one with the red dot, but he cant change that. therefore you fail.[/quote] Was that English? I'm not sure...[/quote] Hey Jonfrpg91 you fail in the demo if you look at unlockables it does say optional red dot sight or acog depending on the gun the guns are customizable you are just being an idiot for not doing any research on the game so YOU FAIL NOT THE PERSON WHO POSTED THE VIDEOS!!!!!!!!!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FinalKing23 It has to due with it failing to contribute to the epic feel. The weapons and vehicle use is just a contributing factor, mentioned in the SAME paragraph.[/quote] Ohh okay, then good point. I just don't think the review sounded like it deserved 8.9. This thread is just repeating the same thing over and over again now though.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jonfrog91 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sweetgirl12 [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXGcKDo6b_w[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KTK9xuHfc[/url] [/quote] so is this your way of saying that haha i was right the game does have red dot and weapon upgrades, because i have to tell you that it was a failed attempt. i want you to know that you can not upgrade weapons in the game, the weapons already have them. so the weapon the guy was using happen to be one with the red dot, but he cant change that. therefore you fail.[/quote] I don't know how to answer that. I was just proving the red dot is visually better in MW2 than it is in BC2. In Bc2 its more suited to a cartoon [Edited on 02.27.2010 11:14 AM PST]

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  • IGN and pretty much every big name reviewer was paid off when it came to the MW2 review, it's pretty obvious.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkGunner93 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Electabuzz I call troll.[/quote] Was just thinking that. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FinalKing23 "The humor was goofy and over the top, the open mission design was a bit too open, and everything seemed coated in a dense fog. A lot has changed and improved for the sequel. The big change comes with a more streamlined and cinematic approach to the action. The dialogue is less overtly inane, though it does offer its fair share of humor, and the level design feels more straightforward." "Though the action has been streamlined, it feels like Bad Company 2 just missed the "epic" feeling that it seems the developers were going for." "With the constant action, it feels like there is very little tension building outside of the game's opening moments."[/quote] What's that got to do with being able to use all guns and vehicles? [/quote] It has to due with it failing to contribute to the epic feel. The weapons and vehicle use is just a contributing factor, mentioned in the SAME paragraph. [Edited on 02.27.2010 11:10 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jonfrog91 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sweetgirl12 [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXGcKDo6b_w[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KTK9xuHfc[/url] [/quote] so is this your way of saying that haha i was right the game does have red dot and weapon upgrades, because i have to tell you that it was a failed attempt. i want you to know that you can not upgrade weapons in the game, the weapons already have them. so the weapon the guy was using happen to be one with the red dot, but he cant change that. therefore you fail.[/quote] Was that English? I'm not sure...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] sweetgirl12 [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXGcKDo6b_w[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KTK9xuHfc[/url] [/quote] so is this your way of saying that haha i was right the game does have red dot and weapon upgrades, because i have to tell you that it was a failed attempt. i want you to know that you can not upgrade weapons in the game, the weapons already have them. so the weapon the guy was using happen to be one with the red dot, but he cant change that. therefore you fail. [Edited on 02.27.2010 11:04 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Electabuzz I call troll.[/quote] Was just thinking that. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FinalKing23 "The humor was goofy and over the top, the open mission design was a bit too open, and everything seemed coated in a dense fog. A lot has changed and improved for the sequel. The big change comes with a more streamlined and cinematic approach to the action. The dialogue is less overtly inane, though it does offer its fair share of humor, and the level design feels more straightforward." "Though the action has been streamlined, it feels like Bad Company 2 just missed the "epic" feeling that it seems the developers were going for." "With the constant action, it feels like there is very little tension building outside of the game's opening moments."[/quote] What's that got to do with being able to use all guns and vehicles?

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  • I never liked the Bad Company franchise, I think MW2 is where it's at. uh oh...

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  • DICE is going to open a can of woop ass.

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  • [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXGcKDo6b_w[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KTK9xuHfc[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] holy assassian The problem here is that people don't disagree with the bad company review, they disagree with the mw2 review. But Eric Brudvig did [i]not[/i] review modern warfare 2. You cannot just infer what he would give mw2 based on this review. For all we know he could have given it a lower score. [/quote] No, the problem is that a lot of people believe that he gave a bad review of the game.

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  • MW2 doesn't have a better online it is fun but a lot more frustrating and a lot more glitches Bad Company 2's online is much better you fight as a team for the team when i play BC2 online demo it felt like war MW2 not so much i mea just because MW2 has more people online doesn't make it the best MW2 is not by any means the definitive shooter of the decade and the game was over hyped like i said the online is fun but broken and frustrating when i played the Bad Company 2 demo i was not at all frustrated with it at all i was having fun every time i played it [Edited on 02.27.2010 10:56 AM PST]

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