{{
`${userDetail.user.displayName}${userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode ? `#${standardizeBungieGlobalCode(userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode)}` : ""}`}}
{{getUserClans()}}
5/28/2016 5:40:28 AM
72
Fabian Strategy Titan exclusive Exotic weapon?
The warlocks get Tlaloc a top tier scout.
Hunters get Ace of spades top tier hand cannon.
Titans. Fabian strategy..a mid-low tier AR without any perk that makes the gun "exotic" or Titan specific buff. And even the perks currently on the weapon make such a minute difference to its performance it's almost unnoticeable.
The is almost indistinguishable from any other Hakke AR...besides its looks of course. But is that enough to warrant its Titan specific exotic title?
I want a weapon that other classes will look at and think Damn that Titan exclusive is awesome. Like people do with Tlaloc or Ace of Spades...but all we Titans get is a rupture of laughter if we weald one..and then get melted by Arminius D..or Doctrine.....
This gun would be a lot better if it was to work in conjunction with Titans abilities.
Even something like having Fabian Strategy equipped and passing through a ward of dawn grants force barrier.
Or while force barrier is active you get a proper buff to stability.
Or buffs from weapons of light/blessing of light last longer while longer while using Fabian Strategy.
Or even (because of the blast shied) splash damage is reduced while using Fabian strategy depending on what class the Titan is currently on...
ANYTHING to make Titans proud of there class mighty exclusive exotic weapon.
-
1 ReplyI'm not a big auto rifle guy and yes the Fabian doesn't stand out like out exotics but it is decent in PvP and great for PvE
-
The base stat profile for Fabian Strategy is really close to that of Zhalo Supercell. It just lacks the chain lightning. And the bonus super energy. And Persistence. And Braced Frame. Wait, what does the Strategy have going for it again? Honestly, all the "when enemies are close" perks are kind of bad. Let's hope that brand of thinking is abandoned by the development team before the next round of new content.
-
2 RepliesEven then, think about the lack of logic in the gun. You get a higher rate of fire when enemies are close, but not a mag buff. This just means that the perk runs out your mag faster, so you have to reload, making the perk HURT THE GUN!!!
-
What they need to do Fabian strategy: 1: Up magazine size to 56, to make better use of crowd control and life support. 2: Bring in the range of where front lines activates but keep the same damage as the mid fire archetype when activated. Close enough to deter rushers but not too far away to let the weapon feel broken. Maybe initial damage drop off? 3: Maybe feeding frenzy added to intrinsic perk? Immobious it needs serious improvements. There's 3 ways I'd modify how it works. 1: Keep it the same but give the wielder +1 armour and +2 armour in Ward of Dawn. 2: Range and damage is increased greatly while inside Ward of Dawn with kills inside not expending ammo. 3: I'm sure full auto wouldn't go astray on this shotgun, the perks are garbage.
-
Don't forget the Immobius shotgun, it really needs a buff too; the only way to one shot someone with it is to have the gun practically inside them
-
I honestly don't see any reason why the Fabian Strategy could not be equipped with an underbarrel shotgun. Something that would make it follow what the actual Fabian Strategy is From wikipedia: [quote]The Fabian strategy is a military strategy where pitched battles and frontal assaults are avoided in favor of wearing down an opponent through a war of attrition and indirection. While avoiding decisive battles, the side employing this strategy harasses its enemy through skirmishes to cause attrition, disrupt supply and affect morale. Employment of this strategy implies that the side adopting this strategy believes time is on its side, but it may also be adopted when no feasible alternative strategy can be devised.[/quote] How does the Fabian Strategy, the weapon, do any of this? It should have an exotic perk that makes it actually follow this. Something like every fifth round is explosive. Or something like what I mentioned before about the underbarrel shotgun. It could be done where it only has one shot for the underbarrel shotgun (just so it wouldn't be too easy to exploit) and then it would be a better weapon meant to harass an wear down the enemy
-
1 ReplyDefender Main here - Fabian Strategy is crap. It needs a serious buff. In a like-for-like skill face-off, it will be smeared across the floor by most other auto rifles out there. One idea is to tweak the exotic perk so that you get the fire rate increase WITHOUT the damage drop off. Even then, it'll only be worthy of a "good" tag, not exotic. Tlaloc used to be a very viable weapon, particularly for Sunsingers who tended to hold on to their supers a bit longer. Now that all 3 have been tweaked... It's still strong but nothing incredible. Ace of Spades is average-to-good in crucible, but it makes up for it by being a godsend in swarmy sections of PvE.
-
1 ReplyI just don't care for class-exclusive weapons. While it's interesting in concept, it's annoying in actual play. Cool, the weapon was designed to be used by [class], but why should that stop other classes from using it?
-
The Fabian strategy just needs one of two things to be a solid weapon. Either give it an increase in magazine size since the thing empties so quickly or let it maitain it's damage per bullet when the front lines perk activates. If the damage stayed the same, the smaller magazine size would balance it out so that it couldn't wipe a team as the highest damage maxed fire rate auto rifle, while at the same time having a truly exotic advantage over something like the doctrine. The doctrine of passing has more exotic quality than the Fabian simply because it's magazine can be maxed at 70. If the Fabian had that, it could contend a lot better.
-
1 ReplyEdited by Powermix24: 5/29/2016 1:07:11 PMA primary Auto rifle that would change it's Elemental damage according to what ability you have selected . Striker / Defender / Sunbreaker ! Arc/Void/Solar
-
5 RepliesGive it the ability to shoot through your own Ward Of Dawn. Pair that with weapons and BOOM!
-
grant the shield a use when A.D.S. (Aiming down sights) is active gain 7%-15% dmg reduction depending on how many enemies are surrounding you when perk becomes active also gain an overshield for 7 seconds scoring a multi-kill will add +2 seconds once every 30 seconds allies standing behind you take 15-20% less damage within 30m crouching increases ally resistance to 28% your armor goes up by +2
-
Edited by GreenScreener: 5/30/2016 7:15:30 AM#BungieHatesTitans
-
I am not even gonna read the post. I am gonna tell you from my experience. Got the weapon grinded Gunsmith and that weapon is pure garbage. Hated it right away. perks are horrible on that thing. Tlaloc - Awesome Ace of spades - Awesome Fabian ? - Sucks.
-
Ace of Spades seems better in PVE to me. But hand cannons are not a great PVE choice in my opinion. I love the the Tlaloc. I will use a Dis-47 until my super is charged and then switch over.
-
It's sux , when fireteam players LOL, at my F.S., for infusing it to 335. I just pay no mind they ain't worth the time.
-
Edited by Mars3099: 5/29/2016 10:20:43 PM[quote]Hunters get Ace of spades top tier hand cannon.[/quote] yes and we are not bragging [spoiler]It sucks too[/spoiler] so its pretty much just the Taloc that does not need any tweaks
-
1 Replytitans have a panic buton instaled so i think it is balanced
-
1 ReplyUnderbarrel shotgun.
-
4 RepliesFabian Strategy could give the titan a higher lunge melee while equipping the weapon, have the health regen perk activate more quickly, an I still don't understand to give it a suros spin-up like perk. Even having the perk that activates when enemies are close could be tweaked more for you to take more damage while your dealing more damage, I dunno maybe that's a little OP. But at this rate, that guns as bad as the bad juju in vanilla.
-
Edited by Ghostfire239: 5/29/2016 6:56:24 PMAce of Spades is mid-tier for PvP BUT if your a good shot then it's pretty good. Anyway I agree that Fabian strategy could use a buff.
-
4 RepliesEdited by Kreis: 5/29/2016 4:09:16 AMAce of Spades is not an amazing weapon. You used a PvP comparison for Fabian but the same argument could be made for Ace of Spades, it's no better PvP-wise than an impact oriented hand cannon and is pale in comparison to weapons like Eyasluna.. Fabian and Ace of Spades are both awful in comparison to Tlaloc. Maybe make Ace of Spades do Arc and increase the range on Fabian Strategy a bit. I've heard Fabian is an actually decent Auto Rifle, but expecting it to outgun Doctrine? Suros is worse than Doctrine. Hard Light is worse than Doctrine.
-
4 RepliesEdited by chickengoujohn93: 5/28/2016 10:59:26 PMAce of Spades isn't a Top Tier Exotic in theory. It may have solid stats, Third Eye, Firefly and a glorified Triple Tap perk, but all of which I can get on a Legendary Hand Cannon opening the Exotic slot for something else. However, Fabien Strategy is the worst Exotic I have ever used in Destiny. Worse than pre-buff Necrochasm, Bad Juju and Red Death. A buff wouldn't do the weapon any justice either because it's stuck in that medium rate of fire and impact archetype of Auto Rifle. They are by far the worst AR archetype in the game and this has been the case since Vanilla. Not strong enough to do some serious damage and not fast enough to pummel enemies with bullets.
-
1 Replywhat if me make Fabian a doctorine like weapon? Nah.
-
3 RepliesAce Of Spades is more mid-tier for exotics.
-
Yeah the gun needs help alot of it. My red spectre domiantes even doctrines. I love talolc even use it with out a charge super and put midas to rest.
