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Edited by CJ:
5/17/2016 10:46:28 PM
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Sniper Scopes, and Why I Use Ambush
It seems a lot of people nowadays have been relying on the ShortGaze and LongView SLR10 scope. Granted, they've always been popular scopes. However, I'd like to take a moment to give credit to the underdog of the scopes world (at least for now), the Ambush SLH25.
The Ambush SLH25 has an aim assistance stat of -25. Yes, indeed, this sniper scope takes away a good chunk of your aim assist. It has a magnification stat of 4.9x, which is relatively low-- the same amount of magnification as the ShortGaze SLH10.
This scope may take away aim assist, but some would argue that's a good thing (I'd be in the same boat). It helps to teach you to really hit those headshots (as long as you don't have Hidden Hand to make up for some of the lost AA), and it's one of the best, if not [i]the[/i] best-handling sniper scope(s) in the game. I can't tell you how many drag-scopes I've gotten. Hell, I even get no-scopes with it sometimes (R.I.P, Bladedancer).
This is part of the reason why I really hate on the ShortGaze scope, especially if it's paired with Hidden Hand and Snapshot/QuickDraw. It makes it extremely easy to hit headshots, despite the fact that ShortGaze no longer gives more AA. My thing is that it doesn't take any AWAY, either. Given that circumstance, since 1,000-Yard Stare is at a pretty solid 56 aim assist, pairing it with Hidden Hand brings it up to near 70, which is pretty high, all snipers considered.
Am I screaming for a change to aim assist? No. Am I saying I automatically hate you if you happen to have a sniper with the mentioned perks/scopes? Absolutely not. I have a 1KYS similar to the mentioned combination, which I occasionally use in Trials (it's got Last Resort). I am, however, hoping to bring some more love to the Ambush scope and the low aim-assist lifestyle. I'd have less of a problem with this combination on sniper rifles if, A.) The aim assist wasn't quite what it is with the combination of perks, and B.) Sniper rifles flinched a bit more (unless they had Unflinching, which takes up the same spot as Hidden Hand).
I don't know. I'm not exactly angry, but I am a bit disappointed that this is all I see nowadays. You'd think Bungie would make it seem worth it to use these scopes just a tad more. Oh, well. Tell me what all of you think.
(Yes, I realize LongView SLR10 actually gives you aim assist. My thing with that scope is that it's quite a bit clunkier than ShortGaze or Ambush)
Edit: Thank you to everyone who is supporting this post! To those that aren't, well... you're entitled to your opinions.
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5 RepliesScopes are down to personal preference at this point, I like Shortgaze more than Ambush IMO it feels a bit snappier to use. If I don't have Shortgaze than Ambush or Longview SLR10 will do. Post like this come across as incredibly preachy to me. When I clicked on this post I was expecting to see something in regards to benefits of using the Ambush scope not a rant trying to make people feel guilty for using a different type of scope.
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1 ReplyIf you don't like AA, then use Eirene RR4. It's AA is almost non existent. I prefer Ambush scope as well (I use it on my 1kYS), and I would exclusively use Eirene RR4 if it didn't put you at such a disadvantage against Longbow and 1kYS users. FYI: Longbow has a base AA of 68, 1kYS has 54 AA, and Eirene RR4 has 21 AA. People don't like to admit it, but AA does do a lot of the work for you when sniping.
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2 RepliesPersonally, I prefer the TacSys SLS15. The description of "Useful in unpredictable situations" really applies from my experience. Really underrated scope, imo.
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In y1 ambush was the scope to use
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27 RepliesGod you would hate me with my god longbow on my hunter
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You make pretty solid arguments here. I really appreciate your lack of hate on this subject, considering how the community tends to be. I will agree with you 100% that snipers could use more flinch. I'm kind of sick of hitting a sniper with a primary and they get the headshot regardless. I'm not knocking on snipers at all, but I think that the community could benefit from a flinch increase. Making unflinching worth using would be nice, too.
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Nope SLR makes up for its higher zoom with faster handling speed
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"Hell i even get no scopes with it"[spoiler]That means you didnt use the scope.[/spoiler]
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Currently, ambush scopes in at the same speed as shortgaze, the boosts to handling only affect equip speed and reloading slightly while ads speed remains the same.
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I have a 1kys with both shortgaze and ambush, along with hidden hand. I go with ambush and all my friends tell me I'm dumb for not picking shortgaze. I just prefer the way ambush handles.
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My longbow synthesis has ambush scope, unflinching, army of one, and QuickDraw. I love it.
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The only reason I hate Ambush is because when i get shot while scoped it makes my reticule bounce around like a fat man's belly. Which is why I switched to Hawkeye
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I loved the spear with ambush
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Edited by C_O__L__E: 5/18/2016 2:14:58 PMI can use ambush just fine, helI learned to snipe on praedyths revenge with ambush which had one of the lowered aim assists in the game. I use shortgaze because it looks freaking amazing lol
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Inspect my 1000 yard on hunter
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3 RepliesI'd love it if we could talk scopes sometime OP, what do you think of the scope "viewtac"?
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ShortGaze has terrible sights IMO. Too much stuff in the way. My favorites are ambush and tacsys.
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1 ReplyYep, it feels more satisfying when you hit a head shot with ambush. Plus it makes you better in the long run due to the -25 aim assist. I have an LDR with Ambush, Last Resort, Snapshot, Firefly. Too bad I don't use snipers.
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I love ambush in y2. I was short gaze all the way in y1. Have an awesome longbow with ambush and snapshot, absolutely love it. Just got a glass promontory with short gaze and ambush, with QuickDraw and snapshot, and hidden hand. I really like the ambush snapshot combo
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8 RepliesEdited by Heidegger: 5/18/2016 12:21:16 AM[u]My favorite scopes [/u] Defiance of Yasmin Stillpiercer Ambush Longview Shortgaze TacSys Hawkeye I want to learn the scope that looks like a TV screen(can't remember name). Edit: It looks like it's Viewtac, thank you for the replies
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I've been playing on my gfs account which after two days is already sweaty. Main reason I play on it is her ldr which has ambush, double down, snapshot and final round (useless). Very nice sniper.
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I almost always use a sniper with ambush scope. Im not sure why, but the short gaze scooe never feels right to me when i use it on sniper. That, and i love how snappy the ambush is, its almost like a baby snapshot built into the scope. I got a 1-k stare that has ambush, and id never think of replacing it with a god roll 1-k cause its just so much better than a god roll. Good on you buddy for going against the shortgaze meta, glad to know some of us aint alone when it comes to snipers and ambush
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Edited by UrWurstNitmare: 5/18/2016 7:32:27 AMI like to use Ambush SLH25 because I like to snipe in Mid-Close range‚I'm still an Aggressive Sniper and I like to push my targets and approach for the kill‚ and I'm a snappy fast paced player despite playing the slowest class in game. Just like how Battle Rifles are in FPS games were sniping is viable in cqc-mid range
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2 RepliesIf a sniper doesn't have ambush I immediately trash it. It's sad but I need it so that sometimes I can hit the broad side of a barn
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This is the only scope I use, none of the snipers I use in pvp have hidden hand either.
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I allways use ambush i Even dismantle a sniper if they don't have ambush unless its a so called god roll
