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Edited by Orpheus49: 5/17/2016 9:13:29 PM
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Thorn is now the worst exotic

Yeah, thanks a lot nerf babies, now 4th horseman looks like a good gun and Fabien strategy is laughing at it Edit: To those who say it's still good. I'd rather use a legendary with rangefinder and hidden hand since, thorns perks are useless now. Edit: i hope you realize my main weapon of choice is bad juju, thorn was never a crutch in year 2 but a support weapon intended to pin down snipers and other passive players. I only used it to counter snipers
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  • Let's face it dude, Thorn was a bad idea to start with. It might have been awesome on paper, but giving a gun an incredible dot ability is just retarded, considering how much of a crutch weapon it was in year one. Getting two shotted from a sniping distance was never fun. I remember the days of triple Sunsinger warlocks all using thorn and Felwinters sniper. I'm glad they fixed thorn. It was a big problem.

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    • Ya you can't 2 shot and run from sniping distance :( it's terrible

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    • Edited by AMC_07: 5/18/2016 2:26:23 PM
      Thorn should not be able to counter snipers, it is a hand cannon ffs! If you need a sniper counter, get a heavy hitting scout or a scout with high caliber rounds. The thorn deserved the nerf it got, and honestly I think bungie did well to find a way to balance out the DOT. It's not ridiculous anymore, but it still does decent damage if you stack it. Also, 4th horseman has been good since the last time they buffed it (especially in arc burn activities). It unloads it's whole mag in less than a second, perfect for doing a ton of damage in a small amount of time. And thorn is still better than Fabian strategy, that gun needs a lot of work

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    • Oh please. Thorns burn should almost never kill someone. And that's exactly what this nerf did. It's actually balanced now.

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      • OP relied on the burn a bit too much...

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        • If you thought HOW Thorn wasn't OP you have serious case of denial.

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          • You realize that you destroyed your own argument saying that you weren't a Thorn user.

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            • PvP and PvE gear should be different like it is in the MMO I play. These constant nerfs killed a big reason we play this game........exotic loot! Most exotics have been nerfed into shit!

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            • The 4th Horseman is awesome. It's not a PvP weapon. Try using it in Court of Oryx to see how good it is.

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            • Yeah miss my baby boo :(

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            • What i don't like is that it simply didn't make it into year 2 because of CRYBABIES. YR 1 crucible was the best ever with how it was and then all the little ass kids just whined and whined until they got their way. Sooooo stupid

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              • I only used it to shoot twice. ;/

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                • It still has more range than most hand cannons, and technically is a gun with a damage buff on its shot... Worst exotic? Hard Light? Fabian Strategy SGA? Really???

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                  • It was as balanced as a fat kid on a tightrope chasing a twinkie.

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                    • [quote]Yeah, thanks a lot nerf babies, now 4th horseman looks like a good gun and Fabien strategy is laughing at it Edit: To those who say it's still good. I'd rather use a legendary with rangefinder and hidden hand since, thorns perks are useless now. Edit: i hope you realize my main weapon of choice is bad juju, thorn was never a crutch in year 2 but a support weapon intended to pin down snipers and other passive players. I only used it to counter snipers[/quote] Who still even attempts to use Thorn? It's time to let go.

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                      • I raise you dregs promise A gun so bad, bungie's "buffs" made it worse

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                        • Thorn is still the best hand cannon in the game. Forget all the perks it has more range than hawkoon and even first curse and is easy to get headshots. I am not a great player but I took it out the vault for one game yesterday and got a phantom medal using it. The aim assist on thorn is insane and it feels nicer than all other hand cannons. I like the fact I can use it now without people thinking I am doing it for cheap triple body shot kills.

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                          • You realise it still has the longest range stat out of any high fire rate hand cannon by a large margin, right?

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                          • FOAD

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                          • Looks so badass though, and the lore. I just want it in y2 for the looks

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                            • Ain't nothing wrong with thorn. Rate of fire and stability is insane, easily still one of the best hand canons in the game!

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                            • Thorn is probably still the most reliable handcannon. I've experienced no phantom rounds, its incredibly accurate. Great range and still hits like a truck. And the burn is nearly non existent now so it ain't really dirty to use anymore 😛

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                              • Still Tier 1, still the most used gun in sweats [spoiler]Obviously the worst[/spoiler]

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                                • But, Greg's Potato exists

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                                • Who cares

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                                • Still a 3 shot body shot consistently... this was the biggest pvp crutch in history. now, it's doctrine for days

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