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Edited by Dredgen Yor Mom:
5/19/2016 1:15:52 AM
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If the Doctrine isn't Op what counters it?
[spoiler]nothing[/spoiler]
Edit: deleted b/c of edit 3
Edit 2: The general gist of everyone's responses is to engage it at a range, which makes sense. However unless you're on Widows Court that isn't a very practical strategy. The maps in Destiny just favor close quarters engagements far too highly.
Edit 3: After reading most of the responses, I will agree that it isn't [b]unbeatable[/b] but it is too strong. Personally I think the amount of effort it takes for someone to beat a Doctrine in a 1v1 is a lot higher than it is for the person using the Doctrine.
Edit 4: Kind of surprised I'm still seeing posts, but just to clarify I meant primaries that consistently work well against the Doctrine. Also try to list ones specifically used in Trials (since that's when those Doctrine users are at their sweatiest). And to get even more specific (if you like) the primary you used to beat a Doctrine on your 8/0 or 9/0 game.
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2 RepliesHave you tried shooting back instead of whining like a little bitch?
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Range
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Skill
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My method with my layout to beat a doctrine is with my suros dis 43 from gunsmith a few weeks ago ( full auto max stability) I strafe while chaining head shots. Most of the time it's a 5 shot kill (approx 45+ per head shot). This throws off their aim with flinching and a moving target is always harder to hit. Take a step back from choke points. Let them pop out first. Or when all else fails just blink/slide shotgun 😉
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1 Reply[quote][spoiler]nothing[/spoiler] Edit: Lol im not seeing one reliable counter to this gun. Edit 2: The general gist of everyone's responses is to engage it at a range, which makes sense. However unless your on Widows Court that isn't a very practical strategy. [b][i]The maps in Destiny just favor close quarters engagements far too highly[/i][/b].[/quote] No way lol. Widow's court? BANNERFALL? Frontier? Yeah sure.
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1 ReplyEdited by xTHEMALIC3x: 5/18/2016 8:59:15 AMThere's a lot that can counter it, but if they pre fire you and you aren't ready/miss you're shots , you are out of there sir. P.s. there is a such thing as damage fall off at range......
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7 RepliesI wish people like you would just quit playing Destiny. Man go play something else. Tired of every weapon in Destiny getting twinked out. I have never once complained about any weapons that I was killed with. Cry baby
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I destroy them in normal crucible with the mythoclast lol
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With skill
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You can counter anything with anything
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Tell me why Im capable of killing doctrine users pretty much with whatever load out I use. [spoiler]My loadouts include: Smite of Merain, Gaheris-D, First Curse, Imprecation, Jigoku SR2, Arminius-d, Judith-D, Lethe Noblesse, Paleocontact JPK, Hung Jury, Spare Change .25, Mida Multi-tool, Tlaloc, Universal Remote, Thorn I guess I can add doctrine, seeing as how I've used it to beat other doctrines (List of Primaries)[/spoiler] [spoiler]Also including: Invective, Lord of wolves, The Chaperone, Black Spindle, Icebreaker, Patience and Time, Susanoo, Harrowed Silence of A'arn, Queen's Choice, Eirene RR4, Defiance of Yasmin, Stillpiercer, Havoc Pigeon, JabberHäkke-D, Party Crasher +1, Conspiracy Theory-D, 1 Thousand Yard Stare, Tao Hua Yuan. (List of Specials Ive used and won)[/spoiler] [spoiler]And I seriously hope I don't need to tell you Ive beaten Doctrine with almost any heavy Ive used, ever[/spoiler] [spoiler]Others are saying other guns, ones that I'm not as good with. Here they are: The Last Word, Hawkmoon, Ace of Spades[/spoiler] [spoiler]I copied my post from a very similar thread[/spoiler]
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Plenty of guns still that compete. Doctrine isn't even the best auto anymore. Hell, a Soulstealer is a better Doctrine than the Doctrine.
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Plenty of options to challenge the doctrine at range, and plenty of weapons to counter it: pulse rifles, handcannons, scout rifles, hell even low RoF auto rifles could counter them mid range. For every map you think is cq, there are multiple spots where you can challenge a doctrine at (at least) mid range
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5 Replies[quote][spoiler]nothing[/spoiler] Edit: Lol im not seeing one reliable counter to this gun.[/quote] Hawk moon, last word, and almost any handcannon can beat it up close if you land your shots, that has been mentioned several times your just choosing to disregard it out of the misguided sense of doctrine being "to op"
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2 RepliesLiterally any gun except autos. Have you heard of peek shooting?
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Range does, using your brain by picking encounters does, another gun does, a special/heavy does, super does, team shooting does, etc...
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Literally any hand cannon. A-rifles have to hit you continuously to kill, handcannons deal damage in chunks. Shoot, cover, shoot, cover.
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My shadow price seems to do the trick up close, so does last word, so does esyluna, so does my rapier...strange there's nothing to counter it 🤗
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Supers, shotguns, last word, hawkmoon, some fusion rifles, hawksaw. Its not as broken as some think
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Hawksaw...enough said
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close quarters with the last word. 🔫🔫🔫🔫 ~[i]TheGreatNike[/i]
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3 RepliesWow....you completely ignored any comment that did not back up your mistaken view..... you have a future in politics.
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14 RepliesI've been outgunned by Monte Carlo, arminius-D, last word, first curse, and a handful of other primaries when I've used doctrine. If it's a mid sized Map pull put a good scout and use range
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Golden Gun
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Shotgun. Sniper. Fusion. MG. Launcher. Scout. Pulse. Auto. Cannon. Grenade. Melee. Super. Each and every one of these is capable of reliably countering the Doctrine of Passing with Counterbalance. Git Gud
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The last word.
