The pace of play has seriously slowed down and hardscoping and camping has taken over... I use to be able to get 30 to 40 kills a lot in a game but now it's a lot harder...and I'm not even a great Pvp player...I haven't seen one game in a long time where a player had 40 plus kills...if they did than they are prob a god sniper... shotgun nerf really hurt...no one use to hardscope when you could get 2 pieced by a thorn or hawkmoon...if u were good at avoiding damage n 2 piecing people u could wreck or good with shotgun when they weren't nerfed to shreds... The amount of heavy ammo in a clip and amount u could carry really hurt too...u use to be able to wreck w heavy for a long time if u stayed alive...I use to be able to carry almost 75 bullets in my jolders hammer when I picked up heavy ammo...now it's way less... All these nerfs really made it harder n longer to kill and turned Pvp into a teamshot campier game...matches take so much longer and are way less intense... I'm guessing bungie nerfed everything so new players to the game have it easier in Pvp and don't quit... Well players that have been here since week one like me feel like everything is so underwhelming now...I still enjoy Pvp because of the sweaty competition n trying to get better... It's funny how many threads I see of destiny being so sweaty n people raging...but that's y I still play Pvp...there are a lot of good players out there... The only thing fast paced now is mayhem lol...atleast I have that lol...just wish we were as powerful like year 1...or wish bungie never would have made us that powerful so I wouldn't feel like everything is so underwhelming now...stupid tons n tons n tons of nerfs...k I'm done...bye