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Edited by BigTexB007: 5/5/2016 12:37:44 PM
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Bungie - Have an Idea Regarding Reforge/Reroll

This is a video game after all, we should be able to have our cake and eat it too. On the way home from work I was thinking about how recently I've gotten some weapon drops I was looking for, but with shit rolls. While there's nothing quite like FINALLY getting that weapon drop with the perk/stat rolls you WANT.... the inverse is a very NEGATIVE disappointment when you get that drop with shit perks (and Bungie, seriously, you've got some SERIOUSLY shitty perks available). Man, there must be some way to balance this out right? Now, I was NOT a big fan of the HoW weapon reforge system. I mean shit man, it was unlimited rolls as long as you had the materials to grind it out and hit the RNG casino like a mad man. It took the grind to a place I didn't particularly like... engram farming for weapon parts and various grind/material exchange for Motes of Light. Getting the necessary materials didn't exactly promote fun play. SO, here's my suggestion. Allow for a SINGLE item re-roll once a week. This can include weapons OR armor. The re-roll, whether it be a "ticket", consumable, or even a buff would be based on completion/performance of an in game activity with certain modifiers/criteria. A random one would be selected EACH week. For Example: - Complete Kings Fall with X amount of precision kills - Complete Nightfall within a certain timeframe - Complete Trials of Osiris Gold Package Bounty - Complete all weekly bounties and Points achievements in CoE And to keep things fair, rotate in matchmaking activities 50% of the time: - Complete 5 Heroic Vanguard strikes in a row with fewer than 5 deaths - Complete all Weekly Crucible Bounties and 50% of Daily Crucible Bounties Ect... you know, the possibilities are really endless here. Completing the weekly task will give you a buff or ticket consumable that allows you to select ONE legendary item, and re-roll it a maximum of 20 times to try for the roll you're looking for. You don't make it, well tough shit, you've got to wait until next week. For one thing it'll make people think twice about rerolling an almost perfect roll with one oddball perk since the rerolls are limited. I think this method would satisfy most folks want/need for a reforge system. It would also keep die-hards from simply grinding/buying their way into a complete god roll set of gear within a short amount of time, putting the more casual folks at a distinct disadvantage. AND, perhaps equally as importantly, it'll PROMOTE end game content play and it won't leave folks who only matchmake completely out in the cold. I think I would like this system. How about you guys? Any suggestions/variations? If so, please like or bump so that Bungie see it! EDIT 1: As stated on a reply below, we need to be realistic regarding this. Bungie isn't jut going to GIVE us reforge/reroll a la HoW era. And I don't think they're going to use a similar system in HoW but with higher cost. The only way I think we'll get reforge back is to come up with a system that is mutually beneficial. My idea promotes gameplay of in-game activities, would not be a monotonous grind to achieve, actual reward would be equitable, and would limit the reforge system so that it would not be a crap situation of try-hards only with God Rolls. EDIT 2: Bungie could even use this system to promote play of left-behind content. - Complete VOG with Aetheon and Templar kills - Complete a Skolas Run with fewer than 3 deaths - Complete Phogoth, Nexus, and Vanilla Winter's Run strikes - Complete Crota with.... and so on..

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    Can someone just drop a comment on my post? I wanna come back to this later.

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      • Edited by Akira00x: 5/8/2016 7:35:11 PM
        You should be able to infuse perks just like lightlvl. That way you still need to grind for a weapon with the perk youre looking for but you would be able to infuse it into another weapon. The gun you used for infusion gets destroyed, and doesnt affect the lightlvl of your equiped weapon, just the perk.

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        • Edited by TheShadow: 5/8/2016 7:54:35 PM
          So if i read this right, every time you used the reforge you have to start all them task over again?

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          • Bring back HOW reforging. Your system would suck. I'm glad your not running for president

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            • Edited by FatMacBrbn: 5/6/2016 5:25:47 AM
              Cool, idea. But still, I don't under the problem of just giving players the option to customize perks on a weapon. Reforging seemed like a decent middle ground of satisfying players and Bungie still baiting players along with rng. Everybody got what they wanted. Since full perk customization is so darn taboo, just bring back reforging ( permanently) and call it a day.

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              • What happened to "bae?"

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              • BUMP! C'mon guys, if you like this idea BUMP IT UP so that Cozmo sees it!!

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              • you should only be able to re roll one of the main perks or the mid tree of perks also the muzzle/scopes are a choice. that way you still have to find a decent roll that shy like 1 perks to be good and we wont instantly flood the game with perfect rolls.

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                • More than likely Bungie will add some sort of reforge for the fall update (or shortly thereafter) since Destiny 2 will be coming after that and judging from their actions so far we can expect a full gear reset for Destiny 2.

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                  • Love the idea! Had a similar thought with using the gunsmith- submitting weapons you want new rolls on to him, and getting three choices back the next Armsday. Unlimited weapons could be rolled (they would take an inv spot liked Armsday packages) but the time and inv space would be major costs and keep it reasonable.

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                    • [quote]My idea promotes gameplay of in-game activities, would not be a monotonous grind to achieve, actual reward would be equitable, and would limit the reforge system so that it would not be a crap situation of try-hards only with God Rolls. [/quote] Man, you nailed it in this post, BigTex. I don't think we'll see this implemented in D1, but its a great idea!

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                      • Edited by Malphisto: 5/5/2016 5:19:05 PM
                        That just serves to further extend the arduous grind of pain. Instead, it would be far better for them to eliminate the notion of perks being random for weapons so that you know right off the bat what you're getting and can then plan out using the Armory what you want to invest your time and effort into hunting down. This in turn gives the developers more possibilities with designs where they can focus on giving each individual weapon or piece of armor its own specific characteristics. Would also go towards making balancing an easier deal and, hopefully, reduce the chances of them going overboard like what they did with the Hand Cannons. Because at that point you would judge each and every weapon on a case by case basis. There's a limit to how unique each weapon can be when you're just dealing with the raw attribute numbers, and even then you're limited from a developer's perspective because each archtype has to be within a certain range serving as their defining features. While there is SOME creative leeway to be had there, the area where you have a real ability to give each one their own personal character are the perks themselves. So it really screws the pooch if players have the option to just say "-blam!- that" and put whatever perks they want on 'em. That's why I've always been against the notion of Reforge. I would much rather see everything be given its own value and where players know straight up what to expect so they know what they're getting ahead of time, making getting said items that much more rewarding in the long run. The RNG on top of RNG with a side order of RNG in this game is ridiculous and really creates this stupidly annoying, pointless grind that really makes it out that the game is just trying to devour as much of your life (time) as possible.

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                        • just have a glass needle type thing for weapons and armor, where it changes the perks.

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                          • Edited by Viikinkiruhtinas: 5/5/2016 3:55:04 PM
                            Yes, please!

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                          • Limiting the rerolls would be a good way to balance it out. Good idea.

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                          • Could work as a gunsmith quest/bounty rewarding the ticket at the end - like it

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                            • Edited by Br4k3d0wN: 5/5/2016 4:39:15 AM
                              Strike, PoE, and Raid loot reroll for 50 legendary marks, 5,000 glimmer, and 25 armor materials/weapon parts.

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                              • i had a re roll idea thats super simple and no need for them to add anything consumable wise. so if you want to re roll your gun give it to the gunsmith and of course pay but he keeps it for a week just like arms day orders and you cant use it until he gives it back(it doesnt take up a slot in your guns) you can keep doing this forever. or if you had specific perks in mind you could give him a gun (legendary) with the respective perk(only 1 per gun) and he'll put in the 1 you want. it will still take a week. if you had blues itd take 3 blues for a perk( all must have the perk) to used for perk transfer with the gunsmith. very simple. no new materials or things to do but super easy and not totally game breaking.

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                                • Bump. I really like this. You are basically making a weekly re-roll and endgame reward.

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                                  • I like the idea of one re-roll per week.

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                                  • Love it! Bump

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                                  • I wouldn't say 20, only because you can probably get the roll you want in probably 15 tries. Maybe 10 or Bungie's favorite number 7.

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