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Destiny's Fallen Captain vs Halo's Covenant Elite. Pick your Champion.

Fallen Reaver Captain

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Covenant Elite Major

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Currently, these are the best arguments I've seen from all the replies. Well done. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/202110848/0/0/1 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/202130536/0/0/1 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/202232835/0/0/1 https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/202203609/0/0/1 --- The ultimate Death Battle. Captain vs Elite? Here is the scenario. Both Elite and Captain have three weapons of the same category, Heavy, Primary, Back-up Weapon, and Melee Weapon. They also each have an ability. Both are of similar ranks and the experience that comes with them; an Elite Major is more akin to a Reaver Captain. Each are at the peak of existence, the full glory in what they are. Think of it as a Death Battle or a Deadliest Warrior simulation. Here are their arsenals: [b][u]Captain[/u][/b] [spoiler][b]Heavy[/b] - Scorch Cannon [b]Primary[/b] - Shrapnel Launcher [b]Back-Up[/b] - Shock Rifle [b]Melee[/b] - Dual Shock Blades [b]Ability[/b] - Teleportation[/spoiler] [b][u]Elite[/u][/b] [spoiler][b]Heavy[/b] - Fuel Rod Cannon [b]Primary[/b] - Plasma Rifle [b]Back-Up[/b] - Needler [b]Melee[/b] - Duel Energy Swords. [b]Ability[/b] - Evade[/spoiler] [b][u]Note about Energy Swords vs Shock Blades:[/u][/b] [spoiler]Here is the Shock Blades Lore: These full-length edged weapons gather Arc energy from a system of shock cores and charging caps in the hilt, converting the entire length of the blade into a [u]plasma[/u] [b]cutting torch.[/b] Here is the Energy Swords Lore: The Type-1 Energy Weapon/Sword consists of a curved hilt, housing an energy storage module and a device for projecting [b][u]the plasma which forms the blade. [/u][/b] --- From further view, both of these are plasma weapons. "Brutally efficient in the hands of a skilled Captain, Shock Blades are not ceremonial weapons built for show. Guardians would do well to respect the threat they present." [/spoiler] I'm slightly going on the side of the stories and lore. If a Captain with two Shock Blades faces an Elite with two Energy Swords with their imperfect representation in-game, they'll just more than likely rush each other and whack at each other rather than try to anticipate moves made by their opponent. Anyways, opinions and debates about the specifics will be bolstered by the i lack of clarity. Rome wasn't built in a day, but this post definitely is, so it definitely is not perfect. I'm not really ScrewAttack, so I don't have enough time or memory to recall the specificities of each character and their weapons, so I'm making a Key Points list that will be updated over time, [u]SO MAKE SURE YOU WRITE DOWN YOUR REASONS AND POINTS FOR ME BELOW!![/u] Leave your opinion, and you're reasons why they would win, and anything I can improve on. -If you can't make up your mind or say that an Elite would win here but the Captain would win there...put it in a simulation of 100 games. Which one would win the most? -Keep in mind game difficulties cannot count because it doesn't really affect the elites, but modifies the experience of Chief (such as the skulls). Similar to patrol and PoE for the captain. Very different, and these depend on the modifiers and difficulty that affects the player, not them. -I may play devil's advocate to some replies. This is only to spark more debate and to bring out your fullest potential! [b]Halo[/b] vs [b]Destiny[/b]. [b]Elite[/b] vs [b]Captain[/b]. [b]Sangeheili[/b] vs [b]Eliksni[/b]. Pick one. [u]Key Points/Research[/u] [spoiler]-Elite Majors are the same as Elite Officers -Energy Sword isn't that lightsaber-ish. You can survive a swing of an Energy sword if you have a high enough shield, and a Reaver Captain definitely has a high enough shield to take hits. -In the recent Halo 5, Energy Swords are no longer drained of energy when striking objects and surfaces, and is only drained when hitting an enemy directly. -Fallen Captains have the benefit of two extra arms, so they can easily grapple with an Elite at close range. (There's a reason why General Grevious killed so many Jedi!) [/spoiler]

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  • Remember the elite dodge? Captains have a cheat-y teleport. I remember the elites in the original Halo- one hit melee kills on the hardest difficulty. And there were these black elites who could nail you with plasma grenades from way far away..... And Master Chief had no space magic to counter with....

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  • I'm just sayin... Randal the vandal beats all.

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  • Elites are incredibly strong, agile, shielded, bred for physical and mental superiority, and trained for combat from birth. Captains are lumbering scaly wag space pirates. Elites in a walk. The Arbiter would eat Skolas's lunch.

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  • Elite obvi. Captains suck ass.

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  • That depends.. Do energy swords deal arc damage? Because bye bye caption shield. Elite would definitely win.

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    • The real question should be elite vs urzok.

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      • The real question: randal the vandal against master chief

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        • Elite. '04 or bust.

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          • The question is, is the Captain a Reaver Captain (A yellow bar/major) or just a normal captain?

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            • Randal the Vandal would kill all of them... Elites and Reavers alike

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            • Edited by Zelrons: 4/28/2016 2:15:56 AM
              It would depend a lot on if stealth is allowed and if an Energy Sword can cut through a Shock Blade.

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            • In the lore, elites are essentially the equal of a Spartan (though master chief still tears through them like a hot knife through butter). Fallen captains are just kind of...there. Elites win that battle every time

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              • I'm rooting for the elite but in all reality fallen reaver captains have 4 arms so they would probably be able to punch them with the 2 unarmed hands they had which would make the elite disoriented and vunerable to attack

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              • Umm, an Elite Major is merely a veteran Elite. The [i]peak[/i] of their existence would be for them to become either a Spec Ops or Zealot just as the peak for a Fallen would be to become an Archon or Kell. That said, Elites are incredibly disciplined and well trained whereas Fallen are kept in line through threats and/or acts of violence.

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              • >Destiny enemy Vs Halo enemy poll in #Destiny >Halo enemy winning >Be more surprised than a teenage girl finding out that she's pregnant

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              • Elite. They are just too OP for a poor captain to handle. Plus the fallen don't seem to actually be as skilled, they slash wildly and suck at grenade usage.

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              • If the battle got up close then the Captain would win. As far as I'm concerned Captains hold no sort of honor or moral anything when battling unlike elites who have a honor nightmare about shedding blood in battle, so the Captain would make full use of their four arms. Captains are also notoriously brutal, cutting off the arms of vandals for no real reason. Long range the Elite would win due to their superior weaponry

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                • Edited by AXELXu7: 4/27/2016 11:31:08 PM
                  It's the pirate vs. knight fight on deadliest warrior all over again. The thing is, the Eliksni come from a culture of deceit. They had honor once, but currently each one is ready to drive a shock-dagger into the other's back for a promotion. The Elites, however, come from a warrior culture where cowardice makes you a pariah. It isn't unheard of, but it's rare. They would prefer to work harder than work smarter. So maybe an elite could kill a down-on-his luck captain in a hand-to-hand fight, but guile will overcome brute force. It's why they were so hard to root out of the Cabal base, they were probably hiding and ambushing patrols, using guerilla tactics and feigning surrender. Honestly, They'd be a better match for Jackals, both having Space-Pirate roots. Hive might compete with Elites, since war is love to the Hive, and the Elites would welcome the challenge. The Vex fight the Flood, and the Cabal Fight the Brutes. It really goes to show how good tropes can weather time, no matter how many times we re-skin them.

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                  • I think an Elite would win. For proof I refer to their appearance. [url=http://www.halopedia.org/images/thumb/7/7d/H2A_Sangheili-Major.png/250px-H2A_Sangheili-Major.png]Major[/url] [url=http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/destinypedia/images/a/a9/Captain.png/revision/latest?cb=20130510122813]Reaver[/url] The Elite clearly has a better fashion sense. The simple yet elegant design coupled with the bold yet subtle color palette is just magnificent.( And don't get me started on those shoes honey) While the Captain just wears a bunch of dirty rags and junk he probably found in a dumpster. I thin the captain would be too mesmerized with the Elites fashion to fight. Losing almost instantly.

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                      I'll say Elites due to all stars like Shipmaster, Arbiter, Player 3, Player 4, and Halo Legends Arbiter being completely epic at fight. Heck Legends Arbiter took down an entire army of covenant and a horde of Giant Hunters. It really just depends on if the Captains and Elites are super warriors or the typical cannon fodder. Albeit hard mode Captains are very easy to kill compared to Legendary elites from Halo 2 (shudders).

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                        The Elites. Why? Because.

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                        • Covenant bro. Elites on legendary tore my butt up with those energy swords. Especially halo 5 good lord

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                        • The Elite would definitely win this in my opinion. Captains are fair opponents, and their extra arms, and experience facing Guardians would definitely give them a good background to bring to the fight. The arc current in their swords may be able to contest with an Energy Sword, but that's a bi of a gray area. The Elites on the other hand, have experience not only with the UNSC, and [b][i][u]Master Chief[/u][/i][/b], but are inherently warriors in their culture. The Elites are bigger than Captains I believe, and have much more military training and strategy. Let us not forget, 3-4 Elites could be sent in with some grunts to take out a UNSC base; 3-4 Captains have trouble standing up to one Guardian. [spoiler]People may say I'm biased, and maybe I am a little. (Halo for life). But Halo will always have the stronger enemies to me[/spoiler]

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                            Elite. I'm too lazy to provide proof right now so I'll just stick with fanboyism for my reason.

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                          • I'd say 90% of the fight senerios end with either the elite winning or a draw. Fallen require ether to breathe, cut the lines, puncture the tank or just wait until it runs out.

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                            • I believe an elite would win because they have more experience fighting a variety of enemies and are quite powerful altogether.

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