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4/26/2016 4:45:53 PM
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I'd be okay with shoulder charge if the following things were fixed:
1) Some Titans can be considered "sprinting" after a split second. It shouldn't be that fast.
2) I've been back charged before. What's that? When the Titan runs passed you but the shoulder charge still locks on and he literally pivots mid-melee. The point of this ability is for you to go balls in, in one direction. If you miss, you miss. You shouldn't get to pull a 180 during the melee.
3) Shoulder charge one hits a player with a res over shield. Seems unfair to me.
4) The weapons are readied too quickly. A titan can miss a shoulder charge and immediately punch you after. There should be some ready up time.
A lot of these might just be bugs. I think the CONCEPT of shoulder charge is quite balanced.
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It doesn't one shot people wig max armour builds though, I always survive
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Edited by jareids: 4/27/2016 7:56:26 PM[quote]1) Some Titans can be considered "sprinting" after a split second. It shouldn't be that fast.[/quote] That's simply untrue. It doesn't happen after a split second. It's after 2 seconds. [quote]2) I've been back charged before. What's that? When the Titan runs passed you but the shoulder charge still locks on and he literally pivots mid-melee. The point of this ability is for you to go balls in, in one direction. If you miss, you miss. You shouldn't get to pull a 180 during the melee.[/quote] I think this is and intentional move Titans use. I'll run and jump over somebody, do a 180 in midair, and hit them from behind. It's an intentional move to disorient your opponent and I do it when I want to shoulder charge somebody but they're too close. Running past and then doing a 180 gives the time to activate shoulder charge. Not exactly sure if this is what you're referring to though. [quote]3) Shoulder charge one hits a player with a res over shield. Seems unfair to me[/quote] This would be exceptionally unfair... If it were true. The only time this is possible is with peregrine greaves. Without them, shoulder charge actually won't even one-shot guardians with high armor builds. [quote]4) The weapons are readied too quickly. A titan can miss a shoulder charge and immediately punch you after. There should be some ready up time.[/quote] Personally, I think the ability to punch directly after makes lots of sense. Idk what would prevent someone from punching quickly after. But that's just me.
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Edited by JonahTalks: 4/27/2016 5:37:23 PMShoulder charge does not one hit with an overshield unless they are using Peregrine Greaves. I have even survived shoulder charges in ToO on a [b]Hunter[/b] because of max armor and the light level advantage.
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Edited by redshirt4life: 4/26/2016 7:21:31 PM"Back charging" is lag, I think. And it happens a lot less than the whole backstab glitch. Then there's the magic knife that Bladedancers get.... Pretty sure SC can't OHK someone with an overshield. It can't even OHK a warlock with max armor and the ram. As for the other stuff, Titans are warriors. Everything they do is designed to inflict maximum damage. Frankly, facing a Titan should be scary as hell. And they're certainly no faster than a hunter.
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Back stab is broken, no argument here. SC can absolutely OHK someone who was just revived. I see this numerous times every week in Trials. No single character should inspire more fear than another. Titan skating is well known as the fastest movement sped in this game.
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[quote]SC can absolutely OHK someone who was just revived. I see this numerous times every week in Trials. [/quote] Not unless they're using peregrine greaves, or the person they hit is specced for absolutely no armor. It's simply not possible. Ask anyone and they will tell you the same thing. [quote]No single character should inspire more fear than another.[/quote] Not true. What inspires more fear, a tank or a humvee? Titans [i]should[/i] be like a tank. It [i]should[/i] be near impossible to stand toe to toe with one. That doesn't mean that they [i]are[/i]. Frankly the classes are too close in terms of capabilities. There should be more separation, different tactics for different classes. The point is in concept and according to the lore, Titans [i]should[/i] be more powerful in a straight up fight, even though they aren't. [quote]Titan skating is well known as the fastest movement sped in this game.[/quote] Fastest, yes. Quickest, no. What's faster, a rhino or a gazelle? But the rhino isn't exactly agile, is it? There are so many ways to deal with Titans. It's sad that you all have to resort to whining because you're either too lazy or too bad to figure it out.
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Despite you making a few good points, I'm over this after the personal attack. I was pointing out a few ways I'd like SC to be changed, certainly not whining. And I have figured out many of the ways to deal with them, on route to my 10+ flawless cards each week. I'm too bad at this game? Lol. Top 1% in Trials, I'm comfortable with my talent level.
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Yet you make preposterous claims to support your complaint that SC is overpowered. Which is exactly what you're saying. You can backpedal all you want. It doesn't change the fact that you're pathetic.
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Never once said it was OP. I actually stated the concept is balanced, there were a few things I'd like changed. So my opinion makes me pathetic? There's more to life than video games, junior. You'll learn all about that one day.
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Oh look, the sad little man is in denial. Kid, if you don't think it's op, then nothing needs changing. Yet everything you've said shows that you think it's too powerful and should be tweaked. You can double talk all you want. It just makes you even more pathetic.
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DukaNess >redshirt
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Thank you for that, you pig faced imbecile. If you don't have anything to contribute, you can go back to sniffing paint with your little buddy.
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Redshirt = madbro
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That must be some damn strong paint if you're willing to make that much of an ass out of yourself.
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Can I get a perigine greaves copypasta in here?
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What if everything you ever wanted... WAS TO KICK SHIT IN THE FACE!? FOREVER! THEN YOU NEED PEREGRINE GREAVES!!! PUT THESE SWEET-ASS LEGS ON YOUR TITAN AND YOU WILL F***ING DECIMATE THINGS WITH YOUR POWERFUL KNEES. THEY ARE GEMS. YOU WILL LOOK GLAMOROUS LIKE A STYLISH LADY WHILE YOU KNEE SOMEONE IN THE THROAT SO HARD THEIR TEETH GO FLYING OUT OF THEIR ASSHOLE! YOUR LEGS ARE BEDAZZLED! BEDAZZLED WITH THE STRENGTH OF 1,000 KODIAK BEARS IF KODIAK BEARS GAVE ZERO F***S ABOUT GRAVITY AND EVOLVED TO DO SWEET JUMPKICKS! YOU WILL SET YOUR CHILD ON YOUR KNEE TO GIVE HIM SOUND FATHERLY ADVICE AND THAT CHILD WILL F***ING EXPLODE BECAUSE YOUR KNEES ARE INSTANT DEATH! YOUR SON WILL DIE! YOUR WIFE WILL DIVORCE YOU! YOU WILL DIE ALONE ATOP THE MOUNTAIN OF CORPSES YOU'VE LEFT IN YOUR WAKE AS YOUR LIFE DISSOLVES INTO A NIGHTMARISH HELLSCAPE OF VIOLENCE AND DEPRAVITY! YOU WILL TAKE PEREGRINE GREAVES INTO THE CRUCIBLE AND YOU WILL MASSACRE PEOPLE! YOU WILL F*** THEM UP! YOU WILL KNEE BLADEDANCERS! DENIED! GET THAT BUTTERKNIFE THE F*** OUT OF HERE! YOU WILL KNEE RADIANT WARLOCKS AND CAUSE THEM TO WEEP RADIANT TEARS! YOU WILL KNEE GOLDEN GUNSLINGERS...CAREFULLY.... YOU WILL KNEE OTHER TITANS IN THEIR BUBBLES, DIVING INTO THEIR NEON DISCO DANCE PARTIES BLIND AS SHIT AND MURDERING THEM WITH YOUR ENERGY LEGS! IT IS YOUR BUBBLE NOW SO FU*** THAT GU---wait, shit...THE BUBBLE IS GONE BECAUSE OF YOU GODDAMMIT WHY THE F*** DID YOU DO THAT!? YOU WILL RUIN YOUR K/D LIKE I HAVE BECAUSE YOU ARE ADDICTED TO THE SWEET, SWEET SOUND OF INSTANT AIRBORNE DEATH! YOU WILL CATCH SO MANY SHOTGUN BLASTS TO THE FACE AND IT WILL BE WORTH IT WHEN YOU KNOCK A BLADEDANCER THE F*** OUT BEFORE HE CAN CHOP UP YOUR TEAM! EVERY PAINFUL DEATH WILL BE VALIDATED AS YOUR LEG COLLIDES WITH A FIERY WARLOCK'S FAGGY GOAT HAT SO HARD THAT HE'S RENDERED BRAIN-DAMAGED AND HIS FAMILY FIGHTS WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS TO TAKE HIM OFF OF LIFE-SUPPORT! HE WILL LIVE OFF OF TUBES! BECAUSE OF TEXAAAAAAS! PEREGRINE GREEAAAAAAAAAAVES!!! What if everything you ever wanted... WAS TO KICK SHIT IN THE FACE!? FOREVER! THEN YOU NEED PEREGRINE GREAVES!!! PUT THESE SWEET-ASS LEGS ON YOUR TITAN AND YOU WILL F***ING DECIMATE THINGS WITH YOUR POWERFUL KNEES. THEY ARE GEMS. YOU WILL LOOK GLAMOROUS LIKE A STYLISH LADY WHILE YOU KNEE SOMEONE IN THE THROAT SO HARD THEIR TEETH GO FLYING OUT OF THEIR ASSHOLE! YOUR LEGS ARE BEDAZZLED! BEDAZZLED WITH THE STRENGTH OF 1,000 KODIAK BEARS IF KODIAK BEARS GAVE ZERO F***S ABOUT GRAVITY AND EVOLVED TO DO SWEET JUMPKICKS! YOU WILL SET YOUR CHILD ON YOUR KNEE TO GIVE HIM SOUND FATHERLY ADVICE AND THAT CHILD WILL F***ING EXPLODE BECAUSE YOUR KNEES ARE INSTANT DEATH! YOUR SON WILL DIE! YOUR WIFE WILL DIVORCE YOU! YOU WILL DIE ALONE ATOP THE MOUNTAIN OF CORPSES YOU'VE LEFT IN YOUR WAKE AS YOUR LIFE DISSOLVES INTO A NIGHTMARISH HELLSCAPE OF VIOLENCE AND DEPRAVITY! YOU WILL TAKE PEREGRINE GREAVES INTO THE CRUCIBLE AND YOU WILL MASSACRE PEOPLE! YOU WILL F*** THEM UP! YOU WILL KNEE BLADEDANCERS! DENIED! GET THAT BUTTERKNIFE THE F*** OUT OF HERE! YOU WILL KNEE RADIANT WARLOCKS AND CAUSE THEM TO WEEP RADIANT TEARS! YOU WILL KNEE GOLDEN GUNSLINGERS...CAREFULLY.... YOU WILL KNEE OTHER TITANS IN THEIR BUBBLES, DIVING INTO THEIR NEON DISCO DANCE PARTIES BLIND AS SHIT AND MURDERING THEM WITH YOUR ENERGY LEGS! IT IS YOUR BUBBLE NOW SO FU*** THAT GU---wait, shit...THE BUBBLE IS GONE BECAUSE OF YOU GODDAMMIT WHY THE F*** DID YOU DO THAT!? YOU WILL RUIN YOUR K/D LIKE I HAVE BECAUSE YOU ARE ADDICTED TO THE SWEET, SWEET SOUND OF INSTANT AIRBORNE DEATH! YOU WILL CATCH SO MANY SHOTGUN BLASTS TO THE FACE AND IT WILL BE WORTH IT WHEN YOU KNOCK A BLADEDANCER THE F*** OUT BEFORE HE CAN CHOP UP YOUR TEAM! EVERY PAINFUL DEATH WILL BE VALIDATED AS YOUR LEG COLLIDES WITH A FIERY WARLOCK'S FAGGY GOAT HAT SO HARD THAT HE'S RENDERED BRAIN-DAMAGED AND HIS FAMILY FIGHTS WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS TO TAKE HIM OFF OF LIFE-SUPPORT! HE WILL LIVE OFF OF TUBES! BECAUSE OF TEXAAAAAAS! PEREGRINE GREEAAAAAAAAAAVES!!!
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Everytime this sounds like mr. Torque from borderlands
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This made my night. Im rolling and wheezing on the floor. Time to take my bird legs out for a spin too.
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-blam!- I can't find it. Sorry
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Hold on
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Edited by YeBlunts: 4/26/2016 5:09:17 PMIt takes 3 seconds for shoulder charge to activate and it lasts for 5 seconds. Any deviation is probably lag. Also it does NOT kill you with an overshield??? It does a flat 200 damage (thats why high armor builds can survive it) Only time it does more damage is when using peregrine greaves (which bumps shoulder charge damage up to like 600 or something crazy)
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Back charge is only supposed to work on Mk. 44 stand asides, apparently they give extra turn radius for sc.
