Is a gun has one perk I don't like, but the rest is great, I'll keep it. Like on my Grasp of Molak, with exhumed. But, it has my favorite scope for a pulse rifle (red-dot oas) and injection mold and grenadier (which I like in pvp). Certain guns it all about the scopes and middle teir perk that will make or break the gun for me. I have another Grasp of Molak, with great pers, but terrible scopes and meh middle perks and I hate using it. People that think Icarus is a useless perk, don't know how to use it or don't play a style to use it. It's not a bad perk.