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Edited by BaghdadBean:
4/4/2016 6:16:50 AM
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An Autistic Individual On Why Autism is a Debilitating Disease
On Autism Awareness Day, I keep hearing people saying things like [i]"autism isn't a disability, it's a difference",[/i] or [i]"Autism should be accepted, not cured"[/i]. I can speak from firsthand experience, as someone who was diagnosed autistic at age 3, and I will tell you that that is absolute bullshit, and here's why.
Autistic Spectrum Disorder is defined as [i]a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by impaired social interaction, verbal and non-verbal communication, and restricted and repetitive behavior. [/i] It is by definition, a disability. I'll use myself for example. I am unable to understand when I'm being inappropriate, I suffer aggressive outbursts, I have an irregular mood which I cannot control, I am hopelessly stubborn, I am constantly depressed, I rock back and forth in my chair, I couldn't talk until I was 4 and I have severe issues with independence i.e can't ride the bus by myself, can't go on trips by myself and I was sleeping in the same bed with my parents until I was 10. I am mentally ill by every definition and I am behind my peers developmentally. The only thing I'm ahead of them in is intelligence.
At it's very core, autism is a serious mental disability which causes nothing but sadness and hardship for the families and individuals living with an autistic person, knowing an autistic person or being autistic themselves. I have caused my family nothing but grief for the time I have been alive, and I am seriously considering assisted suicide one day to end their grief. The disabled are a detriment to the world and that includes me. I'm sick of the SJW's claiming there's nothing wrong with being disabled. It brings everyone down. We need to fight for a cure, not accept them for who they are.
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4 RepliesEdited by BaghdadBean: 4/4/2016 6:18:27 PMLife is precious, and suicide is a serious issue to be handled by licensed professionals. Bungie employees and forum moderators are not trained to handle those in a suicidal crisis; please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-TALK (8255). You may also wish to contact any of the following crisis prevention resources: US: http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org http://www.spanusa.org UK: http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Suicide/Pages/Getting-help.aspx Canada: http://suicideprevention.ca/thinking-about-suicide/find-a-crisis-centre/ International Directory: http://www.suicide.org/international-suicide-hotlines.html Military Crisis Line: Active duty, Guard and reserve service members, their families and friends stateside and in Europe have 24/7 access to the Military Crisis Line at no cost. For crisis support, those in the U.S. call 800-273-8255, then press 1. Callers in Europe dial 00800-1273-8255 or DSN 118. The toll-free service in Europe may not be available through all carriers or in all countries. Military One Source Toll Free Number: 800-342-9647 Military One Source Crisis Prevention: http://m.militaryonesource.mil/crisis-prevention
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Edited by Blade Abattoir: 4/4/2016 6:41:26 PMNapoleon, my daughter is on the spectrum, and I can tell you that even though as a parent it can be difficult to have a child with autism, I would not change a thing about her. I love her for who she is. You should talk to your parents and family, I think they would say the same thing. You should talk to a professional too, as depression is a serious condition and people are there to help. Depression interferes with how you think others see you, and not in good ways. Talk to someone.
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4 RepliesI know. It used to affect 1 in 150 but now the numbers are growing. Nevermind the argument about vaccinations causing it, let's not go there. I was diagnosed with mental issues at age two because I would sit alone at daycare and never interact with other kids. Things only got worse for me growing up. I was an outcast in Elementary School had very few friends, constantly bullied for being different. In 3rd grade I got suspended for a rage outburst. Then when I was 10, my adoptive parents divorced. I had to move from a large house to a small three room apartment. I was also switched to a different school, put in special Ed class for 4th and 5th grade. By Middle School the bullying and tainting just got worse. I attempted to end my life on many occasions, dealing with forced institution stays. My adoptive mother later remarried, as did my adoptive father who moved to Seattle from New Jersey. The second stint I did at a juvenile psych center called Sagamore located in Dix Hills was the tipping point. My life was completely ruined there as opposed to being rehabilitated. I was subject to relentless racial torment by a deranged psychopath. Not to mention being starved by the staff from of a bs diet regimen because I had been diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic when I became 14. Throughout my High School days, I switched between different schools, dealt with many problems there as well. I didn't officially graduate until I turned 20. My last forced hospitalization was on my 18th birthday strangely enough. I've also dealt with brushes with the law but for legal obligations I cannot discuss those things online. I'm now 31, take over 20 pills a day for psychological and diabetic issues. Constantly depressed, still have no friends in real life. If anything I blame all these hardships on my diagnosis of autism. Doctors pinpointed it to a term known as Asperger's syndrome. Meaning I deal with a lot of social issues, engaging in repeated activities but can retain a high functioning level of intelligence. Looking back on those suicide attempts back in my teenage years, lying in the street hoping a car would run me over, cutting my arms with knives and overdosing on pills, they say if you survive them you'll see that life is worth living. I have yet to see that. I'm still constantly unhappy with my life. Granted my sister who is also adopted, and married is having a child in October so it gives me some hope although I don't feel suicidal anymore. I've been working on and off since I turned 16, I hate my current job. I can only find brief solace in gaming or writing fan fiction though it never lasts forever. In the end I kinda wish I was never born to begin with, considering my biological parents already decided they didn't want to keep me. Flown across the world to the States just to live in misery. I really don't think I have anything to look forward to for the next twenty or forty years. I'm still going to live my life, be it a horrible one until it ends. Let me say in closing that the original poster is correct, this is a real thing that is becoming a real problem which I can say personally turn someone's life upside down in addition to their families. To anyone who read my whole post I appreciate being listened to, felt like sharing my story.
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So, youre saying Autism should be nerfed?
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I tutor autistic kids. Can confirm.
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I feel ya. I'm not autistic but I suffer from anger issues, ADHD, OCD, ODD, and depression. Every night I get into an argument with my parents and feel like ending it all there. The only reason I don't do it, and the only thing that I have to hold on too, is because it would cause them more pain than what I am dealing with if they lost me.
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When I talk to people face to face, I always get double vision, look away, ignore them, or I say something stupid that I didn't want to say on accident. But here on the Internet, I communicate just fine. Talking on the Internet? No problem. I'm not shy, and all of the things I just listed never happen to me when I talk to people online whether it be texting, or talking through a mic. I need help!
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It is horrendous for you to think suicide is the way to end your families grief. That is completely contradictory itself; suicide is [i]the[/i] most selfish and cold hearted thing anyone could possibly do, and you're making your family suffer because of your own feelings. All of your accomplishments, hopes and dreams gone in one swift act because you don't realise your potential. Do not do it.
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Is he a forum user? [spoiler]joke in poor taste [/spoiler]
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4 Replieswhat does this have to do with destiny
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1 ReplyI think part of the problem is many people are self diagnosing themselves with aspergers and autism and its sort of taking away from people who really are dealing with it. So then these SJWs see one of these "False Asp/auts" and say "See it isnt that bad they should just be themselves!"
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Youre born with it so deal with it.
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Edited by Progo: 4/3/2016 1:59:44 PMThanks for sharing, mate. However, don't go for suicide. I don't know everything about your situation, but suicide takes a terrible toll on the lives of those around the victim.
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Listen kid, I know your struggle, I have autism too. I am lucky that I got it on a much lower scale, but even I have considered suicide because of my disorder. You should consider how your family feels about you. How would they feel if they found you laying dead on the floor? People keep saying autism isn't a disorder but it is and it should be treated as such.
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Edited by Guns11 Leader: 4/3/2016 7:52:52 PMI have Asperger's, I think of it as a gift, not a curse. I'm hard work, I can't make friends and I get suicidal. I'm irrational, I'm a complete ass because of it, but that's me, don't give that up. Once you get over it it's so easy to live with, you emulate others, you understand how to live with other people. My family still love me, my girlfriend does, I enjoy life, learn to live with it. The only reason that life is shit is because nobody accepts it.
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I think without Asperger's I'd probably be a very boring person. As someone who suffered through most of what you listed up there I will say I don't want a cure. It's too tied to who I am. I am in too deep. And I was able to channel the pain and misery into art. Maybe you should go out and do the same. Sincerely, a bassist/songwriter/singer/author with Asperger's
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2 RepliesI understand your frustration. I'm an aspie and have always thought of myself as an outsider or an alien compared to the normies. To be socially slow and be completely self-aware of it, that's the worst. However, you're trying to say that we all need to be cured of this debilitating disorder, yet saying that is just as bad as others saying we don't want cured. You can't speak for everyone, regardless of your opinion or personal experience; some people genuinely take pride in being different as they see it. I personally think methods to combat spectrum symptoms should be pursued, and whoever wants it can get it, but I won't clump everybody together and say EVERYONE should be this way. Also, don't suicide. I know you might think you're a bother all the time, but you're not. It's the little things you do in life and don't even realize, that other people will remember and appreciate. You might also think being on the spectrum is all you are, and that may be true to a point, but remember that you are much MORE than that.
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The only difference between the sane and insane is that the sane can have the insane locked up. Hunter S Thompson said that and I agree with him.
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Well said.
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10 Replies* summons demon dog * One of my cousins is Autistic. His family, extended and not, all are very protective. If you made any jokes to him you may be meeting a few shotgun shells. But one the other note, he has a much more serious case than you, OP. He can not speak, nor interact socially. He is 13.
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1 ReplyYour disability sounds like 90% of kids these day
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1 ReplyThis post is so autistic[spoiler]I'm clever and edgy lol[/spoiler]
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People act like autism is a disease, which is why people counter and say no it's just a difference and needs to be accepted, not cured. In high functioning forms it's only really a disability because of the way the world is. I have Asperger's syndrome (A form of high functioning autism) and yes I have alexithymia, anxiety, hyper-sensitivity issues and blah blah the rest that comes with it, however, take alexithymia... that's only really a problem because of people being unaware it exists, if I'm not crying at a funeral or don't seem to care, it doesn't necessarily mean I didn't care, I'm just unable to feel that. Hyper-sensitivity, people need to be aware you can't just touch strangers... blah blah My point being, in my case, if everyone in the world knew of these issues it would never be an issue. Granted there are people on the more severe end of the scale that would like to be rid of their debilitation so in this way it needs to be cured. Depression isn't a part of autism, it's a separate problem and you should try to seek some help with that before it's too late. Death is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I won't deny that autism is a disability in every sense, minus occasionally in intelligence (I am also beyond my age in this respect) but some people view it as an illness that needs curing and other see it as part of their personality, there is no singular answer to it. I've typed a little more than I anticipated but I wanted to share my opinion, I also wish you well in terms of your depression and hope you can find something worth living for. Goodluck :)
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Being a mum to two little boys this makes me incredibly sad to hear that you want to commit sucide. A parents love is so incredibly strong you have no idea what love is until you are blessed with your own child and they are placed in your arms. There may be difficult times and a learning process for your parents but autisim hasn't changed the way they love you and theyll do anything to help you! Stay strong embrace what you have even through the challenges and always remember there is always someone way way way worse then you. xx
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I understand that autism sucks and is probably very difficult to live with, but your parents are taking care of you because they love you. Committing suicide would cause them more grief than living with you ever could, and every single bit of work they put in to help you would be wasted forever. The only result of their work is what you choose to do with the life that they gave you. Suicide is the coward's way out. Keep fighting and make use of what you've got.
