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3/22/2016 7:29:24 PM
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The truth is not on the Internet. Whatever is really going on is not available information. The Information we have available is controlled, and the ones controlling it would not release anything that would be detrimental to whatever purpose they are trying to achieve. Don't be naive.
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  • Edited by wavefields: 3/22/2016 7:38:53 PM
    That is a belief and I already went through that stage personally. the illuminati are not "all powerful" in the sense that they can filter every single piece of information on the Internet. Nor do they care if people like me on the fringe find out their plans... Logical conclusions will lead you to the truth of reality, bottom line, and I do realize they have many controlled opposition informants.

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  • [spoiler]both of you are dumb as fuc[i]k[/i][/spoiler]

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  • tell me more enki the Annunaki

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  • The pursuit of the truth is an unobtainable goal. Information on the subject is convoluted and over saturated, leaving a lot to the imagination of the person investigating. Dwelling and focusing on it just makes you go crazy, because at the end of the day the masses have no power to change anything. They do not care, are ignorant, biased, manipulated, unorganized, and distracted. Live your life with as much freedom as you can, because it's as much freedom as your gonna get.

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  • [quote]The pursuit of the truth is an unobtainable goal.[/quote] I disagree, all knowledge is available in the eternal now and truth is the same as gravity or space time and is structured a certain way [quote]Live your life with as much freedom as you can, because it's as much freedom as your gonna get.[/quote] I agree completely and that's what my main point actually is here. Also instead of watching tv or reading fiction I learn about reality from other experienced individuals, so all of this is entertainment for me mostly. Thanks for sharing, and I appreciate the fact that you're trying to help me.

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  • Just expressing my opinion. I've spend the majority of my time in my head thinking about things like this. It's an endless train of thought, because people much smarter than myself spent their entire lives trying to find the answers to questions like these, and don't ever come up with anything concrete enough for me to set my mental foundation on. But thinking about these things gives me solace in the fact that I am aware. I enjoy these things.

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  • Edited by wavefields: 3/22/2016 8:09:56 PM
    I know I can tell. and I'm the same. you want proof of "God"?

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  • My name explains my position on God and the purpose of humanity. Apatheticist definition is the one who advocates apathy as the only logical response towards unanswerable questions or ineluctable questions. In other words I do not care in the slightest. That is one train of thought I have concluded.

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  • Ok that makes perfect sense, thanks for explaining that also thank you for being who you are, I enjoy all perspectives and yours is one I don't usually come across. [spoiler]secretly you do care though and there is a great attractor pulling us all back into it[/spoiler]

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  • Thanks man. I appreciate it and people that can respect personal opinion. I'm willing to adjust my viewpoint on everything, only if something presents itself with enough evidence to support it.

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  • No problem, I am the same way, and have come a long way.. Basically, if you're interested, I came to the conclusion that mind must be the cause of matter ultimately. I found certain quantum physics phenomena, along with the work of a few relatively unknown modern physicists, to be in alignment with this hypothesis. Not to mention the works of ancient mysticism, the Gnostics, Hindu Vedas, the Tao, freemasonry etc... or the fact that personal consumption of entheogens expands your sense awareness to a factor where the boundaries between you and the universe dissolve. lots of different things clicked and it all started to make too much sense

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  • I literally went crazy and was institutionalized for dwelling on those things. I was mentally broken, after growing up in an extreme religious environment, and questioning what could not be answered. I feel that if the truth became available, it would present itself in a way that there would be no other option but to accept it. For mental stability purposes, I maintain my current viewpoint, until I am presented with irrefutable evidence. The rabbit hole doesn't have an end, it a loop.

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  • Okay I'm sorry you went through that man but "God" is infinite intelligence and "all men come to him in due time", it's quite simple and in perfect harmony with the current laws of physics. it's irrefutable when you have the proper perspective you didn't come into this world, you were grown out of it. My knowledge and has absolutely nothing to do with religion or belief, you might want to listen to your intuition, belief and faith is for people who don't know

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  • I will accept it if it becomes apparent to the senses, and not just conjecture and personal reasoning. The universe is bigger than our imaginations ability to comprehend it, and there is more going on the what is available to our senses, I just accept the fact I am unable to comprehend what is really going on. Who I am equals practically nothing when compared to all that is.

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  • Edited by wavefields: 3/22/2016 10:00:04 PM
    What you aren't realizing is that your senses are only able to perceive a certain amount of reality.. The mind is infinite and therefore is capable of conjecture on the subject. Think about it for a while and you'll realize the mind is actually not even capable of imagining something that is somehow external to the universe in which we exist, and holographically speaking, we are. The cutting edge of science already has this knowledge down and it's been suppressed by the Vatican and other institutions which make money. clearing up that the mind is not the senses.

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  • Exactly. Our senses cannot perceive all that there is, and our minds have difficulty understanding what we cannot sense. Maybe in a few hundred years we will find an answer to all that there is, but I don't care to try myself. I'll let the smart people do it. I've devoted my life to being the best possible person I can be, and to my family, versus pursuing philosophical ideals. It makes me happy to try to make others happy. I am curious to the nature of the universe, and what's really going on, but I do not allow it to fester into an obsession. I wait for the truth versus searching for it.

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  • That's a nice philosophy and I tend to be more in the middle. The two are not mutually exclusive to me, so in my opinion holistic thinking is future thinking.

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