Edit: Sorry if you don't know anything about the "competitive" community this won't make much sense to you. I, before I knew anything, used to think Destiny sweats (games where two groups of players purposefully match against each other and play under certain rule sets) were fun and a good way to play Destiny competitively until I decided to look into it further. Destiny first off can never be a competitive game until Bungie fixes their $hIt. (We all know what I'm talking about) Ok so the "rules" of a Sweat may just be the most ineffective way I've ever seen for players to try to balance an unbalanced game. Remember the age of the Thorn and Last Word? Well that's basically the same thing that's going on now except they aren't as effective as weapons. Now you would think it would be common sense to exclude players from using these weapons as they have an inherent advantage over other weapons and if you don't use them you would be at a disadvantage. But no, instead these "top tier" players ban weapons such as class specific exotics and pocket infinity. Pocket infinity hasn't been good since before the Dark Below! What? You might say, "How does that make sense." I agree it doesn't. These "top tier" players aren't responsible for the unbalanced game that is Destiny, but if they want to be taken seriously as a competitive community they should change these terrible rules. The current rules are made to the advantage of the "top tier" players. Lastly the "top tier" players are straight up harsh and in some ways mean to others who may not be as good. I know that being nice isn't a qualification for being "top tier", but based on the people I've talked to about the "sweaty" community (not gonna list any names) if you don't use the current meta you are ridiculed and called a fool by those who do. I was in a "sweaty" player's stream by the name of iAnbu (now I'm not saying anything about his skill or whatnot) and the best team in Germany challenged him and Luminosity to a sweat. Now Anbu and Lumi DON'T HAVE to take this team up on their offer OF COURSE, but the statements they made about the team were straight insulting! I distinctly remember Lumi saying, "the best team in Germany? More like the only team in Germany." I think this statement stands for itself when I say these so called "top tier" players need to get off their high horse. Now I know not all "sweaty" players have this attitude of being superior, but this doesn't mean that their rules shouldn't be revised to be fair for all players and their playstyles. Peace out, ~HyperJAZ Edit: I don't mind if that's the way those players like to play. I was only suggesting that when the rules are as unbalanced as they are, nothing can be said about the player's skills because the game isn't competitive. Edit: Funny seeing all the fanboys in here defending their idols lol. Edit: Seems like there are split opinions between reliable and "sweaty" sources on this post. Some say they completely agree and back it up with good a good argument and others disagree with equally good arguments. I just want everyone to know I didn't write this post because I'm blaming the game for my skill level and I know I can play sweats under my rules. But that wasn't what this post was about. It was about the widely accepted rules and the community that plays under them and if you don't understand that don't try to make this post about me when that wasn't the purpose of the post.