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Edited by Lil Durk: 3/13/2016 5:15:58 PM
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Deej Responds to Community Backlash: Link Inside

Deej: [i]"Not much else to talk about. In the future, we’ll talk more (your move)."[/i] If you had any doubt in your mind of what the current state of Destiny was, well...there you go. Once again, more gold straight from Deej's mouth. "Nothing to talk about." [i]Damn straight.[/i] "We'll talk more." [i]Um, yeah, no, we won't.[/i] "Your move." [i]My move? K. My move is playing Skyrim til the next CoD is released this fall. See ya.[/i] 👌✌ Edit: User Kone19ps pointed out that "Naming and Shaming" is supposed to be against the Code of Conduct, so I looked into it. Here's what I found: [u]What is harassment?[/u] [spoiler]Bungie.net's moderating team may judge that a user is engaging in harassment if that user is seen attempting to make Bungie.net an unwelcoming, uncomfortable, or hostile environment for another specific user or group of users. Harassment may include a variety of conduct, but often involves multiple replies to posts by the targeted victim(s) or "calls to action" by the harasser trying to cause others to participate in the harassment. Harassment often includes, but is not limited to, repeated personal attacks, threats of violence/hacking/doxxing/swatting (or other negative action) against another user, accusations of cheating/hacking/other illegal activity, thread derailment attempts, suggestive or sexually explicit language, or other disrespectful posts. To be clear, harassment is prohibited [i]even if you feel the other person deserves it[/i]. [b][u]For this reason, "naming and shaming" suspected cheaters/hackers, "counter-trolling," and attempts to "expose" users that are lying about themselves may all constitute prohibited harassment[/u][/b] and result in your removal from this website. Users that attempt to make Bungie.net a hostile or unwelcoming environment for any other user will not be tolerated. If another user offends, annoys, or irritates you, [b][u]the only appropriate course of action is to ignore him or her[/u][/b], or (if they are violating the CoC) report him or her to the Bungie.net moderating team.[/spoiler] So, not only did Deej "name and shame" a user that offended him, but he also engaged in "counter-trolling." And he did it on the most visible platform possible on this website. But that's perfectly okay because he works for Bungie, right? For the record, I don't expect the "Moderation Team" nor Bungie to actually do anything about this. Link to the Ninja's forum post on the CoC: https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Post/121/162456429/0/0 Edit 2: And for those of you who think this isn't a big deal, this is the same moderation team that banned a user for saying "poop" and again for typing out "blam." If a person can get banned for those things, the decision to ban Deej should be no contest. Edit 3: Deej's response [quote]Hey, y'all. I figured the guy with the duck was kidding. Thought I'd take a moment to kid back. No offense intended to any of you at all. I don't want to be the guy who disappears in between major announcements. When I showed up at Bungie, there was nothing at all to talk about. We had yet to even whisper the name Destiny. But we still found ways to have some fun together. That's never gonna stop. I hope. I know you want more content. I know the people at Bungie who are working on that stuff. They have some good ideas and I'm looking forward to introducing them to you so that they can share them. They have a few more questions to answer before I bring you into the space where you can know what we know. In the meantime, we're supporting the game you bought and finding ways to try and entertain on Twitch. There's no substitute for fresh aliens to kill, but the fact of the matter is that I like you people too much to stay away until I have an update to reveal. I promise I'll start telling stories about the future when I know they won't change. This has been demanded of me in the past. In the meantime, please be kind to animals, and please be excellent to each other. You can be mean to me if it helps. I actually kinda like it. Love, DeeJ.[/quote] Link to his response: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/195996007/0/0
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  • I share in your frustration as do many others, but I sincerely feel sorry for Deej. I mean he's just a pr rep who's job is basically to put out fires or be set on fire to cover his bosses asses. The guy gets so much hate and that's what he's paid to do. I still can't help but to feel for him though. As someone who worked in construction for 11 years I took many ass chewings because of something my boss told me to do. Everyone should keep this in mind while blasting the poor guy.

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    • omg OMG O M G it was funny grow the hell up and move on -_-

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    • Can none of you handle a fing joke? Seriously I'm gonna mute every single person on these forums until they're nice and quiet for me

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      • The inability of some in the community to not get his joke, or like his joke, isn't about the joke. Not really. This is a direct reflection of him and his overall interaction with community over the years. It's true you can't make everyone happy. And there will always be unreasonable reactions and over reactions. But this isn't about this one "joke". Is it...

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        • I know I'm late to the party on this one. Haven't been keeping up with Destiny as much cause there's nothing typically to keep up with. The news update ending with the link was as much of a joke as some asshat on a twitch stream spamming "show us your tits" to a female streamer. Sure a percentage is going to find it funny but the reality is that it's trolling, full stop. To then go to the post itself and to double down on the trolling moves into the realm of daring. To say he thought the poster was just joking either means he is completely disassociated with the state of the community or he doesn't understand frustrated hyperbole. Either way it's ignorance. I'm not saying Deej shouldn't joke. One would hope a man somewhere around his 40s would have a level of humor that's beyond mocking/trolling. Dude's got a tough job but sometimes he goes out of his way to make it tougher.

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          • That you're still playing cod tells me a lot more about you than I wanted to know

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            • Wow.

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              • It was a joke. Bungie loves jokes. They spent $500 million making one.

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                • What i got from that was that Basically bungo are in the poo again like pre vanilla launch poo and the new update and/or dlc isnt anywhere close to being ready, if it ever is and he's just trying to distract us with twich stuff (ie doing his job)

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                • Looks Like those speech classes paid off there huh?

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                  • We have people like Deej and Luke Smith at Bungie. How much you want to bet that most of the people working there have similar personalities and mind sets. This would explain a lot about the current state of Destiny.

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                  • So where's the link to the original post?

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                    • Seriously? Dude you are just looking for anything you can spin into something negative. It was an obvious Joke. The guy who made the duck comment laughed. He wasn't offended. If he wasn't offended.. you shouldn't be offended for him. Get a sense of humor or get a Job at Fox News and stop trying to turn mole hills into mountains.

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                    • I may be in the minority here, but good for bungie jabbing back. Screw all the sensitive ass whiners crying that he was snarky. Grow some nuts and man up. Damn. I know bungie has screwed up quite a bit. I also know that even with the screw ups, destiny is still a badass game. Have you guys actually looked at the hate they get on the forums? Id have told all you guys to eat a dick already. Guess its good im not the community manager. Bottom line: don't talk shit, and then cry when they push back. I dont want any shit about "they're a company ", "they shouldn't treat people that way" , blah blah. Millions will buy the next dlc no matter what, so why not?

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                      • Deej got lost inside the Dread naught, couldn't get a headshot with a sniper rifle and ran around with 1 bullet in his mag. He's a community clown, he doesn't know shit about the game and it's not the first time he has dissed the community. Bungie is full of shit as well as Kraptivision. -blam!- their philosophy and their ideas. Everything we feed them is only going to be put into D2 which I will not be buying.

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                      • DeeJ: Gets 1000s of ruthless insults daily and sees 100s. Community: Continues with these insults and a small percentage of them use constructive criticism and give advice instead of childish insults. DeeJ: Sees a post in which he thought was meant to be seen in a joking manner. Responds in a joking manner. Community:[b][u][i]I HATE HIM! HE'S A TERRIBLE COMMUNITY MANAGER! FIRE HIS ASS! BUNGIE NEEDS TO FIND A BETTER COMMUNITY MANAGER![/i][/u][/b] [spoiler]-_-[/spoiler] [spoiler]Leave the man alone, it was a joke and should be treated as so.[/spoiler]

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                        • Hey Dom, 1. When you get older? Posts like this will appear as a long standing political stance more then a point to be stated. Just remember that. 2. Regarding Deej: No one does a job for any salary amount involved with public speaking or keeping up with public news besides those who expect to have hero days and goat days. Mountain tops to bottom of the valley the next hour or day. So with that said? Deej has been doing a job you do not know a lick of things about and that is the core issue here. Not that you should know it all... who honestly does... but again? That line I just spoke about? You are not a community person. You are just another user. Keep it simple. Like Deej who shows actual wisdom while you put up a few sentences and look/sound like you are reasoning through high school logic. This is why you get banned secondly. It's a very easy smoke screen to read from a mile away and it is unhealthy to think along the lines you do. Here's the feedback portion you should have just said: [quote]Deej: "Not much else to talk about. In the future, we’ll talk more (your move)." If you had any doubt in your mind of what the current state of Destiny was, well...there you go. Once again, more gold straight from Deej's mouth. [/quote] Deej, with regard to some of those ideas, could you tell us what the community has said which helps them make decisions? What kind of things in-game do these choices consist of? Is it how many steps we take... how long we stay in orbit versus how long we are in orbit with a destination locked in... ect.. Thanks. [quote]"Nothing to talk about." Damn straight. "We'll talk more." Um, yeah, no, we won't. "Your move." My move? K. My move is playing Skyrim til the next CoD is released this fall. See ya. 👌✌[/quote] If you ever make a post online which is both cynical and rude? You will be silenced for it. By both myself and others. Being a child is not an excuse for making rash judgment and negative posting online. It wasn't when I was playing Halo CE years ago and Myth before that. You want to know the secret to online interaction? Online interaction only works when the words we choose are absolute black and white and capable to translate our message fluently. That means understanding the English language and it's structure to accurately detail and explain your points. You remember what get's taught to most kids right? You have one topic, at least three points to back your topic stance, and paragraph's (5 sentences each) which all relate to the topic and stance. So no, you don't need to make these posts. Make a post which continues the conversation. Don't make a hater column. That solves nothing and does not make you trustworthy enough to weigh in on later subjects of importance.

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                        • How people get salty in a game is beyond me. If Deej made a joke, a poor one at that then why should the community care? I meet people in the game or on the forums acting very childish and I just ignore them. Why stope to their level of exchanging words and expressing hate? Life is bigger than deej and destiny. I admit I don't even read the updates anymore. But if he said something in the manner in which folks comment in the forums, I wonder what the comment would look like?

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                        • Bump

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                        • Whelp, the ninjas obviously don't enforce the harassment rules very hard here lol.

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                        • When is he going to bite the dang duck

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                        • What's this about a duck

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                            • If I was at work and tried humiliating a customer like that I would be fired on the spot. Doesn't say much for the new CEO that this stuff is still allowed to go on. Actually is says quite a bit. Mainly they have contempt for there customers.

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                              • I dont hate the guy. Personally i dont think he is a very interactive and entertaining person for live occurances. He just doesnt have that personality that people like datto, byf, true vanguard etc... have

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                              • Bump for visibility. Why is DeeJ still with Bungie? He's nearly universally despised by the Community.

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