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Edited by CarnivalLaw:
3/9/2016 11:56:44 PM
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Mr. Parsons: Are we seeing your studio's best work?
“To the players of Destiny, I want you to know that my number one priority, and Bungie’s, is and always has been to deliver great games that we can all share together. I believe that Destiny is a one-of-a-kind experience. I also believe you have yet to see our studio’s best work. My new role here at the studio will be entirely focused on fulfilling that promise.” –Pete Parsons, January 2016
So Mr. Parsons, are we seeing Bungie’s best work [b]RIGHT NOW[/b]? If so, how? How are you and your development team “fulfilling that promise” to us?
If we are[u] not [/u]seeing Bungie’s best work right now, why not? Are you spread too thin? Have you devoted so much effort to Destiny 2 that we shouldn't expect anything but Band-Aids for Destiny from here on out? Just be honest with us, please.
In another thread, Lost Sols made this suggestion (and I strongly suggest you take it):
“I’d like to see [Parsons] write a mission statement for the future of this game, D2, and beyond, highlighting his vision for where he wants to take this franchise and company.”
I have no idea how insulated you are from the reality that is Destiny, Mr. Parsons. Do you even know where your once-great company stands with the Community right now? Do you realize that THOUSANDS (millions?) of players have sworn never to buy another Bungie product? Even more have said they are done with this franchise (but [u]may[/u] buy another Bungie game at some point). People who have loved Bungie [i]for decades [/i]have said they hope your company goes under!
With this one game – and your company’s shameful treatment of this Community – you have turned die-hard Bungie supporters into Bungie denouncers. Love for your company has turned into hate for your company. Pardon my language, but that is really -blam!-ed up, Mr. Parsons.
You may have made a ton of money on Destiny, but in the process, you did tremendous harm to your company in the hearts of the players.
So what are you doing about it RIGHT NOW? What can we expect from you and Bungie for the remainder of Destiny? For D2? Beyond? It’s time to own the shit-show, Mr. Parsons, and to explain to us why we should trust you when considering buying Destiny/Bungie products in the future.
Having spent a lot of time playing your game and being active on your forums, one fact that is undeniable is that Destiny has created a new level of savvy gamer. We’re not going to buy the shiny shit simply for its shine. You may have made a lot of money off of us so far, but you are going to have to work harder for our money [i]because of Destiny[/i]! So how do you plan to keep us still here and try to win back those who have left?
RIGHT NOW and INTO THE FUTURE are we seeing you studio’s best work? After all: you promised, Mr. Parsons.
TL;DR: You need to EARN back our trust, Mr. Parsons, and one way to start that process is by being open and communicative about the plans for Destiny, D2, and the future of Bungie. Are we seeing Bungie's BEST WORK? If not, why not, and when will we?
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I am a long standing Bungie fan. I have enjoyed their work for many years now. I loved/hated this game since launch but always felt that it missed heart. I has no real heart. My reasons: -Still no connection with the storyline even now after all the expansions and community response. -No communication with the community of the actual direction of Destiny. You need this you crazy developers. I know you want to be all rogue and go your own way but come on the community can help you with things like opinions and ideas and stuff. -The strange disembodied feeling of being in the social space in the tower with actually very little social interaction. -The lack of other players on the worlds. -The way all my characters are maxed and there is really nothing left for me to do now. The game is so smooth and fluid in its game mechanics but there is just no content of worth. This can barely rate as an MMO as there is mostly only point and shoot interaction on linear things. I have lost count how many times I have run the raids on hard for top tier stuff and literally most of all the expansions that's all I end up doing. I can run any hard raid now with my eyes closed because the mechanics are all so predictable. In summary I have a love hate relationship with this franchise atm. I have stopped playing due to max characters so zero reasons to play. I have mostly all the exotic weapons... My suggestions are: More unique types of melee weapons like the swords. and hey maybe some more unusual weapon types! Try and figure a way for raids with more people. Say you have a fire team of six that works alongside two other fireteams of six. create public events that matter with more that maybe that one guy who luckily was nearby luckily... RNG Loot... ugh well I understand this is kinda crucial programming and I haven't got a better suggestion but maybe figure out an algorithm that understands what you currently have and raises the chances of not giving you the same gun 14 times in a row. Make voidwalker relevant again. Remember the flood from Halo. That was cool. Can you borrow the flood? tl;dr: I will not play this game due to lack of content until likely the next expansion/Destiny 2.0. I don't really like Division, but that and Doom at least have decent storylines... Get your ducks in a row Bungle. Sort it out. #Iwanttobelieveinyou #makemeloveyouagain
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1 ReplyThanks for the link, just noticed it in my notifications now...been busy with Forza, fallout and the division lol... You, Lost Sols, and J Stevensontown take the feelings of the community....the intelligent non-ass sucking fanboys, who see what Destiny used to be and where it's being taken...and put them out there in best most organized non rageful posts that cover so much ground that needs to be changed, fixed, switched, balanced added or updated. Despite the negative Nancy's there are a lot of us that appreciate what you do. Thank you!
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12 RepliesI am nowhere near as angry as many people on this forum. Even though the game delivered to us was not the game that was sold to us, I've still enjoyed it. But that other Destiny, the one we paid for, that would have been an awesome game. A game to sit beside Lord of the Rings on our shelves. That was an audacious goal, and while this Destiny is fun, it's far short of that. So I too would like to see a mission statement. I'd like to be told [u]and shown[/u] that Destiny will one day live up to those original promises.
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2 RepliesTalk is cheap. It's easy to say they will be different this time but it's all about the actions or lack thereof. This company needs to infuse serious capital into this game to retain even their most loyal fanbase. There is a point where a company tries to invest as little financial resources into a product to maximize its return before they cut too much back and drive away the paying customer. I think Bungie grossly overestimated brand loyalty and took the consumer for granted. I truly believe they miscalculated the impact of their neglect and the sales for the next expansion and Destiny 2 will hit them hard.
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1 ReplyEdited by Monkeymayhem915: 3/11/2016 12:35:28 PMI mean, most of the old lead Bungie people left. That changes a lot too. I hate to say it but I think they need to get rid of luke smith...he's the one that denied Statons ideas for the original Destiny...all those cutscenes that were taken out..."to linear of a story"...every DLC we get is linear! Step 1: get to dreadnaught somehow...step 2: kill Oryx
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1 ReplyEdited by acia zemko: 3/12/2016 11:01:18 PMDiablo deserves and gets acronym D1, D2, and D3. Bungie only gets such thing for Halo 1-3. They do not deserve the acronyms given to Blizzard for truly great games. They have a new patch for D2 to allow play on new OS. Bungie would never do such a thing. As for the mission statement, this would be a good idea. Bungie has broken to many promises.
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1 ReplyI love destiny but my friends list these past two months has been weak. I used to have more than enough people to play. Like being able to just help in a raid getting no rewards. Now I can't even find a team to raid with. Lfg sites are even more frustrating as of late. If you don't have anything for us bungie just say it now. Nobody likes a d!ck tease. You've been doing that for months now. Announce something now that's huge because for the first time in a year. Your game actually has a major threat. I don't own it but everyone on my list does. Everyone always plays different games I do myself. However THIS game is going to kill your player base. If you continue to do what you do which is do nothing say nothing. I predict a massive loss of players within a month. We already know after the dB you lost a fair amount. Regained some with how and then dropped a bomb with ttk. Aren't dlcs to add to the game? All yours seemed to take more than it gave.
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2 RepliesBumped like hell. Why be so secretive? I don't want all the details on the new game. Seriously. I would love to be surprised. But don't blindfold the community then blast us. Be nice to us for once. Because you've treated us pretty poorly up to this point.
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6 RepliesEdited by occamsfork: 3/10/2016 2:21:00 PMThe forums represent just the forum membership and specifically only those who post in it...I don't think you can extrapolate much onto the broader Destiny Community.
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1 Replyhonestly came back to forums the first time in 3 months hoping that Bungie would have turned things around. Now it seems like the game is stuck in an eternal hell where devs are trying to improve the game as cheaply as humanly possible which is just causing more issues and making the remaining community leave. The forums looks so empty now, I don't even see Desticles coming out to defend the game anymore. This is very disheartening. Even though I think Destiny has reached it's lowest point I though Bungie would've at least tried to pick themselves up, but they are just getting worse
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1 ReplyWell written. I usually stop reading after the first paragraph because most posts are so poorly written. However with your post, I read the whole thing and couldn't agree more. Bungie, like I've said many times on here, has made a spectacle out of Destiny to drum up a lot of money to show how successful this game has been. Its true, it has been successful. But like you mentioned, this process of quick cash has irrevocably damaged the Bungie name. I am one of those customers that will never buy another Bungie product without reading some serious reviews or renting it from redbox first. Pre-order? Never again. Exclusive content epic bundle edition? Not in a million years. Why? Because their absenteeism in addressing Destiny and their community as a whole speaks volumes about the type of business that's being run over there. Fortunately, I broke the addiction and I haven't had the desire to return to Destiny. I visit here frequently just to see if they've turned their shit around and it only looks like its gotten worse.
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3 RepliesBrilliant. Just brilliant. [quote]In another thread, Lost Sols made this suggestion (and I strongly suggest you take it): “I’d like to see [Parsons] write a mission statement for the future of this game, D2, and beyond, highlighting his vision for where he wants to take this franchise and company.”[/quote] This isn't an optional thing, Mr. Parsons. You owe your community this much, at least. We've put up with a lot of crap over the months, and the absolute vaccuum of communication into which we pour our hearts is becoming very, very old. As CLaw stated: It's time to own the shit-show. Be honest and up-front with us and you'll have taken the first step to earning back our trust. Lie to us again, and you'll never be trusted again. Ever.
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2 RepliesBump this. I agree that they have failed a lot with what they'd promised in the past. So many wishes in that infamous 'list' that have been largely ignored with defaulted responses from the managers that serve as nothing more than fluff. This community has been more than patient and has now turned to salt due in no small part to the way this games future has been handled by people seemingly inept and seeing anything but dollar signs. I may be wrong in that assessment but there has been nothing to disprove these notions. Look at Gearbox and what has happened to that company with Colonial Marines. They lied, they cheated the fan base of a great genre of games and utterly destroyed their reputation for the gaming community. And they deserve every bit of it, along with Randy Pitchford. That said, I'm willing to give Parsons the benefit of the doubt due to his recent promotion, but patience is largely over. It's now or never for this game, the community and Bungie as a whole.
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2 RepliesHell no this isn't their best. If their goal was to make a slot machine with guns, then, yes, this is their best.
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1 ReplyI think "Destiny 2" will be the "better tomorrow" that they have to offer. I think last-generation consoles have hamstrung the development of the current game and duplicated their efforts. It's a great game and the community feedback has helped refine to be better (not in all aspects, but quite a few). I look forward to their next release and I do hope it's better.
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2 RepliesLets be fair. The issues at Bungie are probably related to the culture of the company....and the fact that Bungie made major miscalcuiations that now leaves them over-extended. These are problems that are going to take a lot of time and energy to fix. We are not going to see any big results yet. But what is encouraging is that there are a lot of LITTLE signs coming out of Bungie that the company is in a better position on the leadership front.
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Pete ? David ? .... Bump ?
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1 ReplyRelevance-based bumps, thumps, rumps, jumps, lumps, humps, sumps, dumps, fumps?... and general disappointment-umps towards Bungie's inaction during a time of desperate action.
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19 RepliesI hope this is not the best :/ Bump
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3 Repliestl;dr you're right but overly angry Longform: Destiny, as it stands, is in the toilet. Honestly, I find it hard to believe that anybody is still playing. PvE is dead: there's been no new content since HM dropped, so anyone who played religiously will be bored to death and leave. Aside, of course, for those who foolishly think they ought to hit 320. They spend their time grinding, and then complain that they can't do what was never meant to be feasible. Really, now, there are only casual players, or those who play just because the game is fun (which it is, if you're playing casually). PvP, as it stands, is just wrong. Nothing feels right. I have never, by any means, been a bad player, until recently. I can't kill people, people kill me in ways that just leave me saying "what." PvP can get away without real content updates (see: the popularity of Halo, CoD), but only if it's fun. Crucible is not fun. But, he's the thing. My reaction to the above is simply "meh." Game is boring because Bungie -blam!-ed up? I'll play something else. And I'm sure Bungie knows that. How can they not? The complaints are deafening. But does anybody seriously think it's all intentional? That they intentionally aren't releasing PvE content? That they're intentionally destroying drop rates? Intentionally ruining the Crucible? No, they're just -blam!-ing up. And that sucks. A lot. But being angry about it literally helps nothing. They know they're not up to snuff. They're (presumably) trying to fix that. In the mean time you can drop this trash instead of yelling at them. At this point the anti-Bungie choir-preaching echo-chamber known as #Feedback's trending list has gotten ridiculous.
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...Mr. Parsons
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1 Reply1000 yard Bump
