I was with a friend that had both the shaders you mentioned drop in the same day from the Shield Brothers strike. We didn't do anything special other that beat them extremely fast like you did with Alak Hul. So maybe you're right. Most of the time when I'm doing strikes I am alone and it's difficult to take down the boss like that, so I'll try going at it with a full fireteam. Maybe you're on to something.
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Maybe time is the key. I dont know. I got debt ubpaid from the undying mind