Played Reach PvP and it was very good, forgot how good and fun. We all want Destiny PvP to be good that's why we return in hope. It just makes me angry that they can't implement matchmaking types and models that Bungie pioneered ten years ago, it's almost like it's a new science to them. Maybe it is and this is definitely not the ground breaking team it once was...they must have stayed at Microsoft. Shame.