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Edited by grind4mine:
2/15/2016 3:19:03 PM
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All these calls for sunsinger nerfs="I really cant use my primary"
Only reason players want the firebolt grenade or the whole sunsinger class nerfed is because of the special ammo not spawning in 3v3 and doubles playlists.sunsingers were not an issue before that.a firebolts damage over time makes a player have to move when they are camping for special ammo to spawn or waiting for ice breaker ammo to generate so they can switch to whatever Y2 sniper they usually use.this call out of nowhere for a sunsinger nerf is just exposing everybody who can't use a primary weapon.try again...
Edit: most players I play against try and camp for special...the firebolt grenades(with Viking funeral equipped)forces them out of hiding.there has been a SPIKE in the sunsinger nerf posts(which started when the special ammo adjustment started).when I say sunsingers weren't a problem before I mean sunsinger nerf posts haven't been nowhere near as ABUNDANT as they have been now(I'm pretty sure all of you guys opposing this know this..but you guys are attempting to make me look stupid by taking out of context what I'm saying). I do main a warlock...but whenever the community calls for a nerf on any character I am right there to defend it. Now..for everybody taking this out of context..go ahead..we all know you secretly can't use a primary weapon..and I see right thru the "nerf sunsinger" posts...(no salt intended either)
Edit 2:So..its a few people that try and attack my grammar or try and say I'm contradicting myself?LMAO!If that's all you have to prove me wrong on this...then you are truly exposing yourself. I played trials last night and didn't get rushed with a primary not one time..but you know what I did?rushed the trash players with my FIREBOLT grenade(Viking funeral equipped) and primary weapon that were camping waiting for special to spawn and waiting for those icebreakers to generate ammo.just face the facts for anybody on here that's salty...you cant use a primary weapon..you guys are hot ass garbage..
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Edited by drippy woo: 3/11/2016 10:40:42 AMThe firebolt has always been op. People are bitching cuz people like you rely so much on that firebolt without it sunsinger is honestly useless in my opinion
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7 RepliesA Hunter, Titan, and Warlock are sitting at a table. The Titan, a Sunbreaker, is seriously wounded, and has a broken arm and leg. The Warlock, a Stormcaller, is in perfect health, and is sitting as calm as can be. The Hunter is pacing around the table, thinking deeply about what should be nerfed next. Hunter:Let's see, I just got killed by a sniper... he must have been relying on that aim assist crutch! NERF SNIPER AIM ASSIST BUNGIE, OMFG!!!! Warlock:Oh, will you just shut it already! Look at poor Jim over here. Points at Titan. He can barely move from what your constant bickering did to him. Titan: Need... super... energy... Hunter: Don't even bother, Jim. Now you know how us Hunters, the master race, felt when you b*tched and complained about Bladedancers for a whole year. Titan: Please... no more... nerfs... Warlock:Okay, maybe the Sunbreaker was a little OP, but that doesn't mean every other piece of equipment in the damn game needs to be nerfed along with it! Hunter:Oh crap! Bungie is about to buff auto rifles by... 7%! Oh no, that can't happen. *grabs phone.* Warlock: What the hell are you doing? Hunter: Hey, Xur! I have a job for you. Xur: It is my will to speak to you. Hunter:You know that 7% buff to medium RoF Auto Rifles due this Tuesday? Xur: I think the cells of this body are dying... Hunter: Move the decimal point to the left a bit! Xur: My will is not my own... Hunter: *hangs up.* Weird guy... well, I just prevented a possible OP weapon buff. What's next? Let's see, I forgot to mention something... was it handcannons? No, they got nerfed ages ago... Ah, yes, Stormcaller!! Warlock: What the hell!? I'm perfectly balanced!!! Hunter: THAT GUY JUST KILLED ME FROM WAY TOO FAR AWAY!!! IT'S SO OP!!! Warlock: I'm not overpowered, what the hell is wrong with you? Hunter: ANOTHER ONE JUST KILLED ME! WHY IS IT SO OP!!! Warlock: Shut up! Please stop, Bungie might hear you! Hunter: *pulls out megaphone*. STORMTRANCE IS WAY TOO OVERPOWERED. PLEASE NERF THEM BUNGIE, NERF THEM!!! The Titan, unnoticed to this point, suddenly turns from bright orange to light blue. His broken limbs heal themselves, and he stands up vigorously. Hunter: Jim, did you just switch subcla- *drops megaphone.* OH SH*T!! *The Titan shoulder-charges the Hunter, sending him flying into the wall.* Titan: YOU... WILL NOT... NERF... MY FRIEND!! *The Titan activates his Fist of Havoc, demolishing the Hunter, and the entire wall behind him.* Warlock: Why... why did you do that? Titan: You don't know the pain I've been through these past few days. I - I don't want you to share the same fate. *The Hunter respawns next to the Titan.* Hunter: What the hell jus- wait, that was a Fist of Panic!!!! BUNGIE, NERF THE STRIKER! Warlock: Their super wasn't even buffed, dipsh*t. Hunter: I don't care!! THEY'RE SO OP!!! Titan: What if everything you ever wanted... Warlock & Hunter:????? Titan: WAS TO KICK SHIT IN THE FACE!? FOREVER! Warlock:What in the hell are you talking about? Titan:THEN YOU NEED PEREGRINE GREAVES!!! *Titan jumps in the air, then rams his knee into the Hunter's face.* Warlock:Why does he always brag about those damn things?
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Edited by GuardianzofWar: 2/15/2016 5:58:28 PMI've ran up on so many Hard scoping kids just literally ADSing from Round 2 on. They don't even see me coming. Hit them with a firebolt grenade and watch them scatter then struggle with their primary. It's hilarious.
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8 RepliesIf u rush them (camping warlocks) they wil throw a FB and you have no chance winning the gunfight..that's the whole issue. I'm not calling for a nerf or whatsoever but i hope you'll see that it isn't a straight up fight.
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Actual data for subclass performance in Trials: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/191958967/0/0
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5 RepliesThe burn is just too long, in my opinion. It takes a player out of the fight for too long, and essentially makes it 2v3 until the firebolted player has regained some health. Maybe just make the burn tick faster so a player isn't out of combat for as long. Not really a nerf, just an adjustment to class balance. That's my .02!
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I've never even noticed being killed by a spike grenade
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[b]The other classes have nades that still damage you after impact. Hunter - smoke with venom plus it's lockdown poisons you overtime. Titan- incendiary/fire grenade thing + melee that burns you overtime. Just like how the sunsinger's damages you overtime.[/b] I killed a whole team of six with my hunter's firewall alone. =vv= It's all [b]timing[/b].
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7 RepliesI don't get it What does tossing a nade have to do with ammo?
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I think its more that different classes are better in 2v2. 6v6 a lucky fire bolt can't cripple a whole team, whereas in 2v2 it can. I'd be interested to know the kdr and win stats for sun singers vs other classes in 2v2.
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I totally agree with you man, and i main a hunter for pvp, im not afraid to bkink on a sunsinger's face and melee them even though they got the overshield or rush anyone with my primary thats just my playstyle, it should be most of the people's playstyle as well cause snipers just make matches boring as hell and noncompetitive, so let people complaint about warlocks and keep rushing them before special ammo spawns, eventually they're gonna have to adapt and fight back
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2 RepliesJust leave sunsinger alone, they will do exactly the same thing they did to the sunbreaker, it will be a useless class, why do you guys think no one plays as a sunbreaker anymore? Because people were crying for a nerf and got what they deserved, stop crying improve at the game, i main a hunter and i dont care if im killed by a firebolt, the teams i run with in trials etc are able to pick me up and i will get revenge on that warlock, but im not going to cry for a nerf!
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1 ReplySo the class that has to use 2 specific perks to make their grenades so powerful shouldn't have powerful grenades... So no class can stack on any single subclass build.... I swear all these assholes want crucible to be a hug party.
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Does firebolt need a nerf? In reality the burn should be removed, but that won't happen. Just adjust it to tick the same as thorn. Does this have anything to do with primary? Yes, but not in the way you suggest, not even close. Firebolt+ 1 shot from almost any primary = death. That's the problem, you cannot counter a firebolt with a primary. So if anything this shows how underpowered primaries are, or how overpowered the burn is, either way it definitely doesn't show lack of skill on the other end.
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A sunsingers doesn't really have to use his primary because of his shotgun melee, over shield and DOT abilities but idc. I whipped plenty of sunsinger ass. And also got my ass handed to me by one but regardless. Idc.
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Made five different characters including two warlocks currently prefer hunter jump so I made two but sunsingers have always had an overpowered non super subclass and super if not immediately put down like a sick dog. ie: sniper headshot or melee shotgun
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6 RepliesHm nope, sunsingers have and continue to be overpowered. Their neutral game is just vastly superior to every other subclasses' and their super allows them to be pretty versatile whether it be becoming a tank or being able to turn a round around with self res.
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I just died. The lack of grammar disgusts me.
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4 Replies[quote]Only reason players want the firebolt grenade or the whole sunsinger class nerfed is because of the special ammo not spawning in 3v3 and doubles playlists.sunsingers were not an issue before that.[/quote] No. Firebolts have been getting complained about since arcbolt was considered "op". Special has nothing to do with it. At all. [quote]a firebolts damage over time makes a player have to move when they are camping for special ammo to spawn or waiting for ice breaker ammo to generate so they can switch to whatever Y2 sniper they usually use.[/quote] Lol definitely not. The dot on firebolts allows them to do over 170 damage, that has nothing to do with special. Some people actually use icebreaker because they enjoy using it(carried 2 friends along to my first flawless back in HOW with icebreaker & stranger's rifle). Invective also regens ammo. [quote]this call out of nowhere for a sunsinger nerf is just exposing everybody who can't use a primary weapon.try again... [/quote] It isn't "out" of nowhere, it's been a thing most likely for longer than you've been playing if you think it just started. [spoiler]Please, I beg of you... use proper grammar[/spoiler]
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7 RepliesYoure so wrong bud. Special nerf came out last tuesday, and people have been complaining about firebolts way before then. even now people arent mad because theyre "forced to move when camping special," theyre mad because the firebolt burns for ages, and can kill you even if you had 2/3 of youre health before getting naded.
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1 ReplySo Special ammo relates to grenades? wat I've heard enough....
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So teams of Warlocks who spam their nades and pick people off with one or two Mida bullets/ a 1kystare bodyshot..?
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5 RepliesWhat you just said, had absolutely nothing to do with anything even close to why people want Sunsinger nerfed.
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2 RepliesNew to the forums? People have been calling for Warlock nerfs from the beginning.
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agreed
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Sunsingers ruin Trials
