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A community survey for Bungie to answer

Since you want to ask us questions about the game, doesn’t it seem fair that we get to ask you questions too? [u][b]PvE[/b][/u] - After 5 months in the Taken King, what exactly do you expect PvE players to continue playing without any major content additions? - Are we supposed to run the raid over and over and over again, even after we exhaust all our loot attempts? - You do realize that Forever 319 is the new Forever 29, right? - Who was the dumbass that couldn’t divide by 7 to understand light level? You do realize the community is smart enough to realize the only reason we have light levels on ghosts, class items & now artifacts… is because you wanted to divide by 10? - It took you 5 months to realize that a better chance at a 320 ghost is what people have been waiting for? - Do you think people enjoy the same 5-6 Vanguard strikes repeating themselves over and over again? - What’s so difficult about bringing the Year 1 strikes, into Year 2? Are you that concerned with people beating a level 42 Sekrion from the very top of the map without dropping to the bottom? - Do you get a good laugh out of people getting a 291 ghost shell from Nightfall? Do you take solace in the fact the best rewards from Nightfall are now emotes or racing sparrows? - Is the Court of Oryx supposed to always be empty? Has anyone ever seen 9 players in the court at 1 time as advertised? - You know you have 2 raids, and 1 arena event that could easily substitute for additional year 2 content if you just added a year 2 option for them, right? - Why does Petra have us hunt down Taken enemies (Year 2 content), yet when you rank up with her, she gives you a Year 1 Queen reward? [u][b]Exotics[/b][/u] - Who’s stupid ass idea was it to let exotics only drop at 310 (outside the lighthouse), and require 3 exotic shards to bump them up to level 320? - You do realize your economy would require us to drop/buy 3 exotics, just to dismantle them so that we can have infusion material for them, right? How hard is it for Xur to sell exotic shards again? - If you reach 320, why wouldn’t exotics start dropping at 320? - Were the Pocket Infinity, Patience & Time & Universal Remote so “overpowered” or “over used” that you held them back in year 1 values, along with the Gjallarhorn, Icebreaker & Thorn? - Why did the swords drop at 310, yet the Spindle, Sleeper, Boolean Gemini, No Time to Explain, & 3 class specific guns drop at lower values? [u][b]Social world[/b][/u] - For being a “social” game, how come Destiny has no features that PROMOTE SOCIALIZING!!!!! - Why do you prefer players to rely on outside websites like LFG to create raid teams, instead of providing that in your own game? - Why can’t the jukebox area in the tower be an LFG posting board? - Why can’t No Time To Explain have matchmaking to defeat Atheon? - Considering Nightfall rewards are terrible, why can’t that just have optional matchmaking? [u][b]PvP[/b][/u] - Why isn’t Elimination part of the rotation of daily events? - Why are solo players CONSTANTLY matched up against full parties? Is your matchmaking so terrible that it can’t recognize large parties should play against other larger parties? - You realize that removing special ammo from the beginning of the match, doesn’t fix the issue people have with sniper rifles, right? And that all you’re doing is delaying the issue of resolving the actual problems? - Have you played as a Sunbreaker lately? Did you not think 4 different power nerfs would make the class unviable and completely unrealiable? Have your tracking hammers actually tracked anything? - Meanwhile, Stormtrance is completely normal? Giving a Nightstalker essentially 2 grenade types at once isn’t unbalanced? Giving Striker Titans the most armor & agility (skating) is normal? - Do you think people want to spend a minimum of 7 games completing Shaxx’s bounties, for a chance at a 290 ghost shell? - Has Skyshock & Bastion ever completed a game BEFORE the time limit? - After all your years working on Halo, what the hell were you thinking of not having private matches? - How come we need to rely on outside websites for our stats? Between matchmaking, grimoire cards, crucible stats & fragment hunting, do you realize how stupid this is that players have to go to outside websites for basic information? [u][b]Management[/b][/u] - Since the launch of Destiny, did you know that Deej has stated 9 times already that Bungie needs to “communicate better”? (yes, 9 times since launch in the weekly updates). Is your idea of communicating better, to tell us you need to communicate better? - If someone told you they would do something, and so far it hasn’t happened 9 times… would you trust them? - If an employee promised something 9 times, yet it hasn’t happened yet, would you consider that person competent? - Since Deej catches all the flak for Bungie’s management decisions, wouldn’t it be fair of your management to start taking some of the blame? Do you think it’s fair the community always yells at and blames Deej for decisions out of his control? - If someone outright lied to you about matchmaking changes, would you trust them? Like .04% trusting them? - By firing your CEO and replacing him with his right hand man, do you honestly think that’s really going to change the shitty perception people have of Bungie’s competence right now? - Are you regretting that 10 year deal with Activision at this point? EDIT - I'm also adding user requested questions to the list as well.

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    • [quote][quote]Some of you veterans out there (the few that are left) may remember this post. I've put it in spoilers for those who don't know it/remember it. Destiny has made a couple great steps forward with the TTK release, but at the same time they took 6 steps back. As a beta player, and an avid follower of this game pre-release (They really know how to hype up a game, especially with footage from the actual scrapped Destiny game from a year before release), I've watched since the beginning the BS, lies, half-truths, empty promises, deceit, and terrible decision making that has plagued this game. Let's take a little look at some issues, feel free to add your own, and if I'm not lazy I'll add them in as edits. [b]edit[/b] by now most people have left Destiny, leaving just the desticles and sweaty pvp players, and most complaints fall on deaf ears. But there is always hope. Especially with a new ceo. - nightfall is dead. They killed it with the TTK. Bring back the blue flame and XP boost (they said they'd increase XP everywhere else to balance it, but never did), remove stuff like emotes, sparrows, limited time event "rewards", 3 of coin as rewards, decrease the ghost shells. Bump up the light level, bump up reward light level, you die you go back to orbit. - bring back year one content. Seriously. No reason why year one, everything we paid for, was left behind. Luke smith said that he didn't want to bring year one forward because he didn't want players to have too much to do, too much to grind. And yet, the game is even more of a grind now, with less to do. Since day one the game suffered from lack of content, what's their solution to that? They cut out more content. - raid weapon rewards. They're disappointing. Majority of the players loved getting a primary with an elemental burn, it was awesome, a truly powerful weapon to commemorate your hard work. Luke smith did not like this. He chose to get rid of this during KF. He felt (and in a way he was right, but there are other ways to deal with it) that it limited weapons used, and that's not fair to other weapons. And he doesn't care if you don't like the decision, it's happening so stop complaining. Compromise. You know your players like it, but it does limit weapon use. So add drops to the raid that are elemental spheres. Infuse it to a weapon to give it a burn. Everybody wins. - [u]An in-game, looking for group board[/u]. Really guys, get on that. You're a game that dictates all endgame needs teams, but you don't give the players the ability to do that in game. Have a board, or a tab in the menu. Click different activities, add requirements if needed. Players join up. There's no reason people should leave the game to go look for groups. - weekly strike playlist is atrocious. A playlist was a good idea, executed poorly. No reason to have removed strikes from this. Again, community complains about lack of content, [b]you do not remove content. Add to the list.[/b] include all the strikes, make the first strike completed grant you the 9-12 strange coins and 400 rep it did in Y1. There's a huge problem of people not playing this. You join a game, either you start it with 2 people, it even by yourself (maybe they left during loading), or the other guys leave at start/part way through because they just played it 3 times in a row. Bungie [b]did not[/b] implement smart match making like they said they did. - a huge problem now, that sadly a lot of desticles don't see, are the microtransactions and the microtransaction events. They came out, deej himself, when microtransactions were first announced and people data mined out a bunch of stuff that was not just cosmetic (spark of lights), and told the community (who were in an uproar), to not worry, that was stuff left over from pre-release, won't be in the game. And then literally 2 weeks after the Sparks of light were released and bungie didn't even acknowledge it. They also came out (very late) and told the community no more DLC until Destiny 2, instead they'll be having a bunch of "free events". All these microtransaction events do is fuel microtransaction sales. They are not here to do anything other than that. These are not microtransaction events you get in other games where yes, you can spend money if you want, but don't have to, you can still play, have fun, win stuff, get ahead. These are just here to make more money, and do not benefit the player at all. - balancing is just the worst I've ever seen in a game. They have no clue what they're doing. All they keep doing is shifting around which weapon is on top. First it was auto rifles. Then those were nerfed to the ground and hand cannons ruled. Then they were nerfed and pulse rifles reigned. Then auto rifles were back on top. See the pattern? They aren't balancing. "If it's not broken, we'll break it" is a quote many people use to describe bungie and Destiny. When you notice a lot of your players are using one type of weapon and not another, you do not nerf the popular one to the ground and buff the crappy one to OP levels. It's not rocket science. And on the subject of balancing: [b]STOP "BALANCING WEAPONS FOR PVP AND MAKING IT AFFECT PVE.[/b] To free have they nerfed weapons to the ground because they're used too much in pvp, and they become unusable in pve. Example? Vex mythoclass. The end game reward for vanilla, the end all be all. It was powerful, and should've been. But it was wrecking in pvp so they killed in both pvp and pve. There goes the best pve reward. Awful decision making. "Balancing" also takes them [u]months[/u] to do. Literally months. Like every 6 they get around it. [spoiler]This is a quote from "The Ben obiwan", who posted this on a Bungie update 2015/01/22. So far it has 3500+ comments and bumps. At 2500 Bungie hid the post. To show support, and to show that we do want change, I move that everyone starts posting this to the forums, for as long as it takes them to listen. Fill the forums with nothing but these posts!! Force them to hear our voices, and to listen! Change starts with us! Keep this trending people! And make replicated posts! Spread the word of "The Ben obiwan!" [b]Edit1[/b]: the original post is no longer hidden on the update page “The update we'll never get- "We listened to the masses, and are making some changes to the game. 5 million people bought the dlc, so we have plenty of funds to make this game fun again! We are doubling vault space, hell, lets triple it, what do we care? You can now trade your useless ascendant mats for other things, 10 to 1 for radiant mats, 1 to 1 for marks. Survival mode added. Its really fun, and you get more loot the longer you stay alive. Grimoire is accessible in game, so people actually read it. As you complete sections of the grimoire, cut scenes are unlocked, revealing story points, it was always there, we just forgot to put it in. You can now change your characters appearance once a week for 10,000 glimmer. We made some really fun bounties for you to try, because we are sick of the same crap since launch as well. You can now add modifiers to any mission, and complete it for rewards suitable to difficulty. Of course we don't want every single core player looking identical, the outfitter can help. You just need the armor that has the appearance you want and the armor that has the stats you want. Take it to the outfitter with a chunk of some materials or something and BLAM you have sweet, unique armor, it's so -blam!-ing simple, I can't believe we didn't have this in since release. Crota's End sparrow can do tricks. We agree, all those low impact auto rifles and pulse rifles are like shit on a dick. Nobody wants it, so we added some decent/balanced ones. We fixed all them annoying bugs, like the sword disappearing, heavy ammo synth not working, and the Templar random containment fields. Queens Wrath is coming this week. Turns out there is [i]not[/i] a problem with YOUR network, it was OUR problem [i]all along.[/i] lol. Oh, and 5 more strikes are available, just because we are rolling in cash, and we want to thank you, the customer, for being such a sport, and believing in us." But instead Bungie just carry on, completely oblivious to core problems in the game. Why do I look forward to reading this every week? This could get 1000 bumps, it won't make any difference. I don't think they even read the comments. Edit: Lol, ignore it until it goes away. Perfect PR. Oops, should I of pulled that punch? Edit 2: Thanks guys. Obligatory new bump goal: The moon This post is unrealistic, that's the point, but what is unrealistic is not these ideas being implemented, but Bungie actually addressing issues the community reiterates week after week. Some acknowledgement is all we want, but instead we get ignorance. I love Destiny, but I've done everything, I just want to continue enjoying the game.” -the Ben obiwan [b]edit 2:wow!! 3300+ comments!! Plus all the other posts like this!! Keep it coming guardians! Make our voices heard[/b]! [b]edit 3: my fellow guardians, Bungie has taken down all other posts. They ignored us. But we have not lost yet. Keep this bumping and trending folks![/b][/spoiler][/quote][/quote]

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      • Where are you cozmo? ......... Well?....... .......... ........... That's what I thought.

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      • Found this... lol [u][b]BNG_Suitwearingmothafaka[/b] said:[/u] [quote]PvE - After 5 months in the Taken King, what exactly do you expect PvE players to continue playing without any major content additions? [spoiler]Raid[/spoiler] - Are we supposed to run the raid over and over and over again, even after we exhaust all our loot attempts? [spoiler]Yes[/spoiler] - You do realize that Forever 319 is the new Forever 29, right? [spoiler]No, we aren't even paying attention.[/spoiler] - Who was the dumbass that couldn’t divide by 7 to understand light level? You do realize the community is smart enough to realize the only reason we have light levels on ghosts, class items & now artifacts… is because you wanted to divide by 10? [spoiler]No.... we can divide by 7, we just wanted more gear to count towards your light level so you would have more stuff to grind to 320, which in turn artificially extends playtime, which is important to share holders.... duh, dumbass[/spoiler] - It took you 5 months to realize that a better chance at a 320 ghost is what people have been waiting for? [spoiler]No, we knew, just don't care[/spoiler] - Do you think people enjoy the same 5-6 Vanguard strikes repeating themselves over and over again? [spoiler]Just people buying silver apparently amirite *fist bumps the air*[/spoiler] - What’s so difficult about bringing the Year 1 strikes, into Year 2? Are you that concerned with people beating a level 42 Sekrion from the very top of the map without dropping to the bottom? [spoiler]Not difficult.... just busy making stuff to buy with silver[/spoiler] - Do you get a good laugh out of people getting a 291 ghost shell from Nightfall? Do you take solace in the fact the best rewards from Nightfall are now emotes or racing sparrows? [spoiler]..... Yes?[/spoiler] - Is the Court of Oryx supposed to always be empty? Has anyone ever seen 9 players in the court at 1 time as advertised? [spoiler]Yes.... no[/spoiler] - You know you have 2 raids, and 1 arena event that could easily substitute for additional year 2 content if you just added a year 2 option for them, right? [spoiler]Great! We are getting you to accept updated old content as "new" content... we are doing great... if we hold out just a bit longer, what else can we scam you on?[/spoiler] - Why does Petra have us hunt down Taken enemies (Year 2 content), yet when you rank up with her, she gives you a Year 1 Queen reward? [spoiler]What part of artificially extend playtime don't you understand?[/spoiler] Exotics - Who’s stupid ass idea was it to let exotics only drop at 310 (outside the lighthouse), and require 3 exotic shards to bump them up to level 320? [spoiler]Artificially.....[/spoiler] - You do realize your economy would require us to drop/buy 3 exotics, just to dismantle them so that we can have infusion material for them, right? How hard is it for Xur to sell exotic shards again? [spoiler]Extend![/spoiler] - If you reach 320, why wouldn’t exotics start dropping at 320? [spoiler]PLAYTIME!!!!!! *mumbles* holy shit..[/spoiler] - Were the Pocket Infinity, Patience & Time & Universal Remote so “overpowered” or “over used” that you held them back in year 1 values, along with the Gjallarhorn, Icebreaker & Thorn? [spoiler]Nope... people liked them too much, or hated them too much[/spoiler] - Why did the swords drop at 310, yet the Spindle, Sleeper, Boolean Gemini, No Time to Explain, & 3 class specific guns drop at lower values? [spoiler]Good question *Writing* Nerf.... sword... drops... Got it. Look for it in the 2.2 update[/spoiler] Social world - For being a “social” game, how come Destiny has no features that PROMOTE SOCIALIZING!!!!! [spoiler]Matchmaking doesn't sell silver, that's why[/spoiler] - Why do you prefer players to rely on outside websites like LFG to create raid teams, instead of providing that in your own game? [spoiler]Matchmaking doesn't sell silver[/spoiler] - Why can’t the jukebox area in the tower be an LFG posting board? [spoiler]Matchmaking doesn't sell silver[/spoiler] - Why can’t No Time To Explain have matchmaking to defeat Atheon? [spoiler]Matchmaking doesn't sell silver[/spoiler] - Considering Nightfall rewards are terrible, why can’t that just have optional matchmaking? [spoiler]Matchmaking doesn't sell silver... that was easy[/spoiler] PvP - Why isn’t Elimination part of the rotation of daily events? [spoiler]It's trials practice[/spoiler] - Why are solo players CONSTANTLY matched up against full parties? Is your matchmaking so terrible that it can’t recognize large parties should play against other larger parties? [spoiler]Matchmaking doesn't sell silver, so it's not gonna be great[/spoiler] - You realize that removing special ammo from the beginning of the match, doesn’t fix the issue people have with sniper rifles, right? And that all you’re doing is delaying the issue of resolving the actual problems? [spoiler]Maybe... maybe[/spoiler] - Have you played as a Sunbreaker lately? Did you not think 4 different power nerfs would make the class unviable and completely unrealiable? Have your tracking hammers actually tracked anything? [spoiler]I main a warlock, so beats me[/spoiler] - Meanwhile, Stormtrance is completely normal? Giving a Nightstalker essentially 2 grenade types at once isn’t unbalanced? Giving Striker Titans the most armor & agility (skating) is normal? [spoiler]Yes?[/spoiler] - Do you think people want to spend a minimum of 7 games completing Shaxx’s bounties, for a chance at a 290 ghost shell? [spoiler]*Writes* Nerf... Shaxx... drops.. got it[/spoiler] - Has Skyshock & Bastion ever completed a game BEFORE the time limit? [spoiler]Yes[/spoiler] - After all your years working on Halo, what the hell were you thinking of not having private matches? [spoiler]Private matches don't sell silver[/spoiler] - How come we need to rely on outside websites for our stats? Between matchmaking, grimoire cards, crucible stats & fragment hunting, do you realize how stupid this is that players have to go to outside websites for basic information? [spoiler]Stats don't sell silver.... unless you're talking about that log book[/spoiler] Management - Since the launch of Destiny, did you know that Deej has stated 9 times already that Bungie needs to “communicate better”? (yes, 9 times since launch in the weekly updates). Is your idea of communicating better, to tell us you need to communicate better? [spoiler]Hell yes, we communicate lots better, we started keeping more secrets, which means fewer things to piss off players[/spoiler] - If someone told you they would do something, and so far it hasn’t happened 9 times… would you trust them? [spoiler]Depends[/spoiler] - If an employee promised something 9 times, yet it hasn’t happened yet, would you consider that person competent? [spoiler]Yes[/spoiler] - Since Deej catches all the flak for Bungie’s management decisions, wouldn’t it be fair of your management to start taking some of the blame? Do you think it’s fair the community always yells at and blames Deej for decisions out of his control? [spoiler]We didn't tell everyone to blame Deej, so it is what it is[/spoiler] - If someone outright lied to you about matchmaking changes, would you trust them? Like .04% trusting them? [spoiler]Was that .04% sarcastic?[/spoiler] - By firing your CEO and replacing him with his right hand man, do you honestly think that’s really going to change the shitty perception people have of Bungie’s competence right now? [spoiler]People think we are incompetent?[/spoiler] - Are you regretting that 10 year deal with Activision at this point? [spoiler]Not as much as they are lol[/spoiler][/quote]

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        • That weekly update was so incredibly informative! Considering Activision already announced what was coming to Destiny already during their quarterly earnings conference call.

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        • Anyone semi satisfied with their weekly update. Few days have gone by, no bungie acknowledgement yet. Pretty disappointing still if you ask me.

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          • A community survey for Bungie to answer? And how much faith do you have in Bungie to answer? I don't believe this is the Bungie I have followed for 10 years! A company that pioneered so many game types and matchmaking choices only to step back 10 years in their latest release make no sense! What have you done with the real Bungie ? Answer the community.

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            • Still not even a slight acknowledgement from bungie. But I'm not surprised, they are busy planning the next update about the next update about the next update.

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            • Bumpity

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            • This is epic.

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            • Cosmo and Deej are probably too embarrassed to respond to this

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              • So they have time to type that pathetic 4 sentence update today, but refuse to respond to anything in this post? Lol.....

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                • I'm turtle headin bad, I was gonna read the post but got a turtle problem. The turtle must go

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                • Direct quote from the latest weekly update…”Right now, there are hundreds of passionate people at Bungie working to turn the plan for Destiny’s future into the adventures, dangerous enemies, and glittering treasures that await us.” Translation… ’At the moment, there are a couple of bored guys scratching their backsides and using a Magic 8-ball in a desperate attempt to come up with something that maybe, could possibly be, misinterpreted as the beginnings of a plan by someone but sticking to their original instruction to keep the grind real. Whilst the rest of us concentrate on fixing stuff that is not broken in a continued attempt to polish a turd that we’ve surprisingly given birth to.’

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                • Inb4 bungy hides this post.

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                • Reported for making valid points and having common sense. Bungie (in a Rick James voice): "Nice post guardian, let me make myself comfortable in here. Fck your post guardian Fck your post! Bungieness! Bungieness!"

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                • Bungie's reply: **crickets** --------------- They have your money, there's no reason to either listen to you or respond. Thanks for trying though.

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