[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ArchAssain You use it out of context as in personal gain or friend gain thats where it gets confusing. Your right again they don't control every cd that pops out or every DLC that is downloaded, but if you abuse what they have provided be prepared to be punished.[/quote]Punished? They can't "punish" you for it. The best they can do is refuse to repair a console, honour a warranty or refuse service on Xbox Live. Unless someone knows that it is illegal, they can also mod as many consoles as they like and sell them on without doing anything illegally under the DMCA. It's incredibly difficult for the manufacturer to do much of anything about, well, anything. We are, in fact, allowed to modify and redistribute (well, depending on your definition of 'redistribute', I suppose) for both profit and non-profit purposes. See, this is why the whole assumption is a bit daft - consumer rights almost always trump manufacturer rights. There are only a few cases in which that's not the case, though none seem to spring to mind so long as you bought the games and console legally.