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Addressing auto rifles: Doctrine of passing has better range and ttk than tlw... Addressing handcannon balance: thorn and tlw sit right about where they need to in terms of range effectiveness against other weapon classes. Anything remotely mid ranged and beyond will go to pulse/scout users who know what they're doing (intentionally left hawkmoon out since nerfs have made eyasluna virtually as effective as it, except eyasluna has better range). Addressing your salty attitude: Tlw has been rebalanced. It sits where it was meant to sit...close to mid it can end anyone rushing you (if you use it as intended: hip firing and accounting for kick), but further away you will lose to a skilled guardian using virtually any other weapon (I'm sure enough people can relate to mida use on that point). Final point: Stop begging for weapons to be nerfed into non-functional states. Tlw is meant to be amazing in 1v1 close to mid range fights. If two or more guardians push together or use any other plethora of counters, tlw user will typically lose the fight.
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  • Your wrong about the auto rifles, even with the damage drop off of the last word it still kills extremely fast. One bullet means nothing with a gun like the TLW. TLW is still not balanced for the fact that it covers basically every weakness for a sniper. I use sidearms, and TLW I would classify it as an exotic sidearm. Even at the ranges where it struggles, players will use a sniper, body shot through the flinch, and flip to the last word for a quick finish. The argument also for it to be best at 1v1 engagements makes it overpowered. In every case of course the 1v2 engagements will favor the 2 not because of the weapons but the number of guns aiming at you.

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  • What are you talking about, Willis? TLW has the lowest TTK in the game (0.26 hipfire, 0.53 ADS). The DoP meanwhile is a 0.93.

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  • The last word is the fastest ttk in the game I thought.

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  • Bungie refuses to buff autos and hand cannons so this is the only solution my friend. Cmon. They gave autos 0.4%. Was that a joke? If they refuse to buff the rest then TLW needs to be nerfed. I'm just creating awareness of the problem. The solution can be either/or.

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  • a alternate solution could possibly be you growing a pair or playing more strategically/and or evolve your own play style -remeber if you don't succeed in beating them @ there own game then be smart and make them play yours ...also wait when thorn gets brought to year 2,that will and should be the gun to get dealt with,only a handful of months now and that weapon will eclipse all weapons as THE GO TO primary...you will burn & complain .

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  • One single auto rifle shouldn't be the answer. ALL auto rifles ( or at least most ) should actually operate well within their intended range. Which more often than not, does not happen.

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  • [quote]Addressing auto rifles: Doctrine of passing has better range and ttk than tlw... Addressing handcannon balance: thorn and tlw sit right about where they need to in terms of range effectiveness against other weapon classes. Anything remotely mid ranged and beyond will go to pulse/scout users who know what they're doing (intentionally left hawkmoon out since nerfs have made eyasluna virtually as effective as it, except eyasluna has better range). Addressing your salty attitude: Tlw has been rebalanced. It sits where it was meant to sit...close to mid it can end anyone rushing you (if you use it as intended: hip firing and accounting for kick), but further away you will lose to a skilled guardian using virtually any other weapon (I'm sure enough people can relate to mida use on that point). Final point: Stop begging for weapons to be nerfed into non-functional states. Tlw is meant to be amazing in 1v1 close to mid range fights. If two or more guardians push together or use any other plethora of counters, tlw user will typically lose the fight.[/quote] All this. Perfect. I especially agree on the thorn part. People are still hating on it cause of the name even though it's not op anymore

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  • I disagree. It is the only hand cannon that can kill in three body shots in pretty much every condition.

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