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Edited by Moonman:
1/31/2016 5:05:13 PM
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This game could be more competitive than the rest of the shooters. At least here it takes work to kill someone as opposed to those Shooter that are consider competitive where it only takes .5 second to kill someone.
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It will never be more competitive than any major fps
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Well duh, it requires skill.
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It doesn't require as much skill as csgo, halo, or cod. The game also wouldn't have a good competitive scene.
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It requires strategy and actual communication with you group mates as opposed to those you mentioned especially Halo and CoD when you can do good all by yourself. MMOs and RTS could be actual competitive games if they were easy for the casual audience like CSGO and LoL. Since they aren't, E-sport doesn't bother because they know casuals don't like games that require much more than reflex and aiming skill.
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[quote]It requires strategy and actual communication with you group mates as opposed to those you mentioned especially Halo and CoD when you can do good all by yourself. MMOs and RTS could be actual competitive games if they were easy for the casual audience like CSGO and LoL. Since they aren't, E-sport doesn't bother because they know casuals don't like games that require much more than reflex and aiming skill.[/quote] You say cod and csgo you can do good by yourself when you can't in an objective mode. You can do good by yourself in a non objective mode. You obviously know nothing about e sports if you think csgo and LoL are easy for a casual player to pickup and do good. Division Doesn't require more reflex and aiming skill when there's aim assist and enemies take 3 clips to kill
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Edited by Moonman: 1/31/2016 10:09:06 PM[quote]You say cod and csgo you can do good by yourself when you can't in an objective mode. You can do good by yourself in a non objective mode.[/quote] Not in CSGO but in CoD you sure can [quote]You obviously know nothing about e sports if you think csgo and LoL are easy for a casual player to pickup and do good.[/quote] They are because otherwise, casuals wouldn't play them. Look at WoW for example, it took Blizzard a couple years and nerfs to make the game appeal to the casual audience. What does that tell you? That game like WoW weren't easily accessible as game like CSGO or LoL. [quote]Division Doesn't require more reflex and aiming skill when there's aim assist and enemies take 3 clips to kill[/quote] The same can be said about CoD and Halo since both have crazy Aim assist. It takes more skill to take down a opponent that can take tons of damage as opposed to someone that dies .5 second into the firefight. There is no skill involved whatsoever in killing someone that has almost no chance in killing you if you shot first. You can argue that that is where reflex come into play but thats where it stops being a game about skill and more on natural human abilities that we all posses.
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Yeah, let's compare pve in WoW to pvp in halo. Your argument is amazingly moronic. The ttk in Destiny and Halo gives you plenty of reactive play time. I'll agree that in CoD a less skilled player can rack up a higher k/d by laying low and shooting first and shooting you in the back or body shots with snipers. In other games this is not the case. You're saying that it takes no skill which leads me to believe that you get murked quite a bit so maybe a 3ps is more up your alley noobcake.
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[quote]Yeah, let's compare pve in WoW to pvp in halo. Your argument is amazingly moronic.[/quote] I'm comparing the PvP smartass. [quote]The ttk in Destiny and Halo gives you plenty of reactive play time. I'll agree that in CoD a less skilled player can rack up a higher k/d by laying low and shooting first and shooting you in the back or body shots with snipers. In other games this is not the case. You're saying that it takes no skill which leads me to believe that you get murked quite a bit so maybe a 3ps is more up your alley noobcake.[/quote] I'm not saying it takes no skill. What I'm saying is that it takes no strategy at all.
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You know, map awareness is a huge skill. Taking 3 clips removes the element of having that skill since you can take a shot, run away a bit and prepare for the encounter
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[quote]You know, map awareness is a huge skill.[/quote] That can be said about any game thats why I didn't add it because it is by default a skill set. [quote]Taking 3 clips removes the element of having that skill since you can take a shot, run away a bit and prepare for the encounter[/quote] Not really because you have to work to get the kill. In a game where the TTK is small, you don't have to put that much effort as opposed to a game that the enemy can last longer. Sure it is a different story when it is agains NPC that stand in one place but when it is against another player than can change strategy constantly, it sure ain't easy as compared to someone who doesn't have a chance.
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I miss back in the day when WoW wasn't for casuals. I didn't my time earning every requirement to get into raids(as you had to do quests to get the key to get into the raids) and now it's just hit max level and you're ready bro.
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well, its different strokes to different folk right. the competitive scene is at the low TTK because it relies a lot on reflex and finger skill. this game relies more on group strategy, which is also nice, but the gun control is not as accurate.
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There is more skill involved in group strategy than reflex which is something natural. Why it is it considered more competitive is beyond me. Guess the competitive matches are really full of casuals.
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Out also depends on what people want to watch. What will be entertaining. Personally.. I would rather watch chess than football.
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Thats something else entirely which personal preference.
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My preference would be Division. Most others.. CoD
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well, think about it as a sport. racing, actually. a lot of it rides on the driver's natural responses and reflexes that he/she has honed throughout their career. its the same for competitive PVP scene we currently find ourselves in. Having a steady aim and hand coupled with quick reflexes and good peripheral vision makes you a good pvp player on these low TTK shooters. I'm not saying team strategy isnt competitive. it is. its just not as sought after at this period in time. Besides I feel that TC Siege is much better at that type of gameplay anyway.
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There's no point in arguing with this messi kid he's retarded
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Its nobody's fault that you can't keep an above average KD in shooter and consider them hard enough to require some sort of skill. Maybe instead of looking for someone else to back you up and insult me, you should come up with better arguments because you seem to fail to prove a point every time you try to argue with me.
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[quote]Its nobody's fault that you can't keep an above average KD in shooter and consider them hard enough to require some sort of skill. Maybe instead of looking for someone else to back you up and insult me, you should come up with better arguments because you seem to fail to prove a point every time you try to argue with me.[/quote] Are you mad that you're a desticle and you believe that division requires more skill than an fps because the enemies are bullet sponges. Never told him to insult you or for him to back me up. Your points were -blam!-ing terrible in what world does having a bullet sponge for an enemy make it better than a game where people die in realistic times. I shouldn't have to shoot 3 clips into someone for them to die
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Edited by Moonman: 2/1/2016 6:34:47 AM[quote]Are you mad that you're a desticle and you believe that division requires more skill than an fps because the enemies are bullet sponges.[/quote] Lol the only Desticle here is you. You keep using that name but I don't think you know what it actually means. Tell me how it is consider skill when you die fast? Where is the strategy in that? [quote]Never told him to insult you or for him to back me up.[/quote] I never said you did but by the looks of it, your intentions are pretty clear. [quote]Your points were -blam!-ing terrible in what world does having a bullet sponge for an enemy make it better than a game where people die in realistic times.[/quote] Maybe you should play an MMO for once and stop being a filthy Desticle Casual. You'll see why I use them as example and why it requires more skill to kill someone with a lot health compare to someone that can be killed by spray and pray. [quote]I shouldn't have to shoot 3 clips into someone for them to die[/quote] Lol you must be really bad if it takes you 3 clips to kill someone. You probably thought The Division's Dark Zone was TDM game mode and didn't think that stats actually mattered. Since you're used to being hand held all the time, you didn't figure that out on your own.
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LOL thank you I care so much. Who the -blam!- are you anyway
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Wow dude, you were right about messi. Geez. I forget how this forum has some real pieces of work. I was trying to have a civilized discussion but I guess that doesnt happen often here
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Ronaldo is better anyways
