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1/22/2016 12:25:03 AM
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How are you supposed to counter a fist of havoc?

It's nothing more than a panic button. A goddamn panic button. It requires literally ZERO skill to kill people with it. You simply press a button and everyone around you dies in less than a second. Once the animation has been initiated, the only way to stop it is if you have a super, three rocket launchers, or a dozen shotguns already aimed at the guy. No other super activates that fast, so unless you have one already active, and are aiming at them, you've got pretty much no freaking chance of stopping it. What the hell are you supposed to do? Stay away from all titans at all times just in case one might have it ready? Killing a Titan before he has the chance to press the button doesn't work, as he'll simply have it ready the next time he respawns. It's simply not feasible to kill a Titan after the button's been pressed unless he's already severely wounded. Why the hell is it that whenever this is brought up on the forums, everyone jumps to its defense? The striker subclass is supposed to be unstoppable, I get it. What I don't like is how no other class has a super that's that goddamn effective. No other class has a super that, once activated, guarantees that everyone around you will die unless they either happen to have a super capable of killing you already active, or they have a fist of havoc that they can also use to survive the explosion. I know that these forums has a severe allergic reaction to the word "nerf", but I really think that Fist of Panic deserves it. At least make it so that in PVP it requires a second to charge before detonating, making their window of vulnerability slightly larger. "Press a button to instantly kill everyone around you." is OP in the crucible even amongst supers. It simply can't be countered by anything because once it's activated, you've got less than a second to react, which is not enough time to do anything capable of stopping it. Either give us a more time to counter it, or give the other classes a super each that is equally unstoppable. [b]To everyone who will inevitably side with the super and insult me in the comments below, I genuinely want to know how you can justify this. Every super has a bane, a weakness, except this one. GG has no armor and can easily be shut down, WoD can be countered by simply staying away from the bubble or blowing it up with another super, Stormcaller is easily noticable and thus gives players a chance to react and flee from it. Fist of Havoc has no weakness. If you're in range when it's activated, you will die.. If you disagree, I challenge you to explain a reliable method of not dying when you're in range of an incoming panic fist.[/b] Seriously, the only ways a FoH could actually NOT kill people is if they somehow belly flopped off the map, chose to waste it when there were no enemies around, or if they chose to belly flop at someone who already had GG aimed at them ready to fire. Also if someone reacted by activating their own belly flop so the armor would protect them, but that's assuming they're a titan and also have a ready-to-activate FoH. All of the above can be avoided with even the slightest bit of competence and should not be considered "weaknesses" of the super.

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  • I've actually managed to survive a fist of havoc with a normal legendary sword shield (then got shotgunned afterward) :(

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  • Edited by ST0N3W4LL Mk2: 1/25/2016 11:15:15 AM
    Also, please: Explain a method of not dying when you're in the range of a Nova Bomb, when it's coming toward you. Edit: [b]And of course, when I looked at your stats...a damned Hunter main. Yet again. And one that barely plays Crucible.[/b]

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    • Its a close quarter super. There should be no way to counter it

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    • Edited by CatMan: 1/23/2016 6:46:14 AM
      XD wow. Foh? Really? -blam!-ing hunters smh

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    • Edited by magburner: 1/25/2016 12:12:42 PM
      I have a video to post, which will show my striker, getting PUNCHED out of her fist of havoc...

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    • QUIT WITH THE SENSELESS NERF POSTS! We get it, you died to it because you couldn't thousand yard stare the Titan, or you couldn't Party Crash/Conspiracy Theory D, or proximity rocket the super. WE GET IT. Folks like you, sir, have absolutely waged war on this games integrity and, in conjunction with Bungee's deception basically destabilized morale, especially here in the forums. To think that these forums were actually intended for feedback to enhance the game, when ironically, they became one of the game's foremost opponents. You know you can panic button Landfall Stormtrance, too? And Nova Bomb? And Radiance, with the right setup? Titans are the most defensively oriented class, and the trade off for that is increased protection is that they don't get blink, a lightning grenade can just as easily get the thrower killed, very short range melee, and the fact that armor is basically the most underwhelming stat in terms of PVP. That doesn't take into consideration that Nova Bomb comes at a range, or that even with DFA, FoH is relatively limited. That doesn't take into consideration that Golden Gun can kill you from across the map by hip fire. You can counter high damage with it(you can do the same with Nova Bomb, to an extent), it doesn't get perks to expand its blast radius in any way, and when it's gone...it's gone. But yet you're b*tching because you were within it's range during activation. When will this ever end, when we're all sitting around playing Black Ops: Destiny?

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    • Other supers, heavy, snipers

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    • Sigh

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    • Run

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    • You realise there is one extremely innovative way. Its this new thing called "jumping" it's easy to use and gets you away from the 5 inch radius of a FoH in no time! And it can be yours for the low price of £9.99. Get yours now ;)

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    • There's actually a little known secret to countering FoP. I discovered it on my visit with the monks of the Himalayas whilst in deep meditation, contemplating the novelty of the Chinese finger trap. The key: just submit to it. Haven't had a chance to test it out yet, but you're welcome in advance.

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    • Ok so by your post because your class cant do it it is op. Ok then, no tether or super suppression for hunter it is op because my titan cant do it. No throwing knife or smoke because my titan cant do it. Make golden gun bullets slower no instant kill my hammers cant do it. And the list goes on and on.

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      • It's about twice a game crybaby. Deal with it.

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      • That's as dumb as asking how to counter getting shot by a golden gun...

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      • If you're on PlayStation, press X and and point the left stick in the direction away from the Titan.

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      • Hopefully see it coming

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      • Throw a nova bomb at him before he gets close enough to activate FoH.

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      • It's easy to defend it as not op. 1: It's a one use super unlike Golden Gun, Arc blade, Hammer of Sol and Stormtrance. 2: Fist of Havoc is not a guaranteed multi kill unless the opponents are grouped together. 3: most importantly, its a super. It's supposed to kill quickly.

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      • You just gotta jump up and get away

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        • Hunter has a panic bow and arrow. You have no idea how many scrubnters waste their arrows on me by myself. I feel special :]

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        • Edited by Athos SD: 1/24/2016 6:48:46 PM
          OP has a medal score of 100k OP has never killed Crota, Atheon, Skolas. OP does not have a Titan crying nerf. OP is a Scrub Huntard.

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        • once you see a Titan run at you, you know he's gonna super or shoulder charge your ass, git gud

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        • God sake do one its a bloody super aka SUPERMAN PUNCH!!!!!

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        • No -blam!-ing wonder you a nerf hunter, wtf muted

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        • This is the second post you have created bitchin about a year one super. You are a total scrub , get wrecked pleb.

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          • It's possible to blink away

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