It's nothing more than a panic button. A goddamn panic button.
It requires literally ZERO skill to kill people with it. You simply press a button and everyone around you dies in less than a second. Once the animation has been initiated, the only way to stop it is if you have a super, three rocket launchers, or a dozen shotguns already aimed at the guy. No other super activates that fast, so unless you have one already active, and are aiming at them, you've got pretty much no freaking chance of stopping it.
What the hell are you supposed to do? Stay away from all titans at all times just in case one might have it ready? Killing a Titan before he has the chance to press the button doesn't work, as he'll simply have it ready the next time he respawns. It's simply not feasible to kill a Titan after the button's been pressed unless he's already severely wounded.
Why the hell is it that whenever this is brought up on the forums, everyone jumps to its defense?
The striker subclass is supposed to be unstoppable, I get it. What I don't like is how no other class has a super that's that goddamn effective. No other class has a super that, once activated, guarantees that everyone around you will die unless they either happen to have a super capable of killing you already active, or they have a fist of havoc that they can also use to survive the explosion.
I know that these forums has a severe allergic reaction to the word "nerf", but I really think that Fist of Panic deserves it. At least make it so that in PVP it requires a second to charge before detonating, making their window of vulnerability slightly larger.
"Press a button to instantly kill everyone around you." is OP in the crucible even amongst supers. It simply can't be countered by anything because once it's activated, you've got less than a second to react, which is not enough time to do anything capable of stopping it.
Either give us a more time to counter it, or give the other classes a super each that is equally unstoppable.
[b]To everyone who will inevitably side with the super and insult me in the comments below, I genuinely want to know how you can justify this. Every super has a bane, a weakness, except this one. GG has no armor and can easily be shut down, WoD can be countered by simply staying away from the bubble or blowing it up with another super, Stormcaller is easily noticable and thus gives players a chance to react and flee from it. Fist of Havoc has no weakness. If you're in range when it's activated, you will die.. If you disagree, I challenge you to explain a reliable method of not dying when you're in range of an incoming panic fist.[/b]
Seriously, the only ways a FoH could actually NOT kill people is if they somehow belly flopped off the map, chose to waste it when there were no enemies around, or if they chose to belly flop at someone who already had GG aimed at them ready to fire. Also if someone reacted by activating their own belly flop so the armor would protect them, but that's assuming they're a titan and also have a ready-to-activate FoH.
All of the above can be avoided with even the slightest bit of competence and should not be considered "weaknesses" of the super.
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Lol OP has been fisted too many times Bahahahahaha
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Titans own you scrub.. Now hold on to my pockets you little mitch
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Little kids need a class to play. Give them a break.
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[quote]How are you supposed to counter a fist of havoc?[/quote] If you see a titan running at you madly and with reckless abandon, assume you're about to get Hulk Smashed and get the fuuuuuuuuuuck out of there. If you never see him coming, well, there's no counter for that.
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you don't
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I use my Smash in crucible and get shut down a lot. I'll charge in and activate my super, only to get a faceful of lead or Sniped. This doesn't happen consistently but that's because it's a super.
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if you see a titan charging run that's what i do because there either shoulder bashing or fisting you
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U can't. Sometimes a blink will get you out the way but you have to time that perfectly.
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Blink away
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Edited by Pro: 1/27/2016 7:09:22 PMOh this is still around? Good! You're still really dumb. [spoiler]im sorry that was mean[/spoiler]
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It's a super that covers a small radius that is instantaneous. Therefore your supposed to die by it.
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There is one way to 100% counter fist of havoc. Sacrifice yourself so your teammates can live. It's a well known fact that titans will waste it on one person rather than using it to kill 2-3 people.
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Saw wall of text. Realized you're just crying cause a Titan owned you. Decided you don't deserve an explanation. You do however deserve a GET GUD!
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Oh look you main a Hunter. Why am I not surprised.
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Bladedancer Hunter, not surprised.
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Your not supposed to be able to counter everything Idiot.You must've been one of the people complaining about the Sunbreakers.But what about golden gun?You pop it and you jade a one shot gun with 3 bullets,Is it op cause I keep dying by it?You just suck at crucible if your complaining about the least PvP ready class.
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Counter it by not sucking so much. Oh and maybe by not typing so much?
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No. Just... No.
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Boo hoo hoo!!!
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With a fist of havoc???
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Edited by suggestedpigeon: 1/27/2016 11:36:43 AMLearned last night if you slam from mid air on a tether you still get tethered. Hilarious part is that I still kept my super somehow. Which is utter bullshit when hunter supers can get shut down mid start animation and lose it. Like for GG if you die the moment your arm reaches the sky you're done. You aren't getting your super. Doesn't even matter if you couldn't aim/shoot or do anything. Same with bladedance if you die between when the squat ends and you can actually move it's gone.
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Are you ill, because you said that no other class has it, what about Nova bomb, it's the exact same thing, you're probably a warlock and run around with flame shield and a shotgun, sick it up
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How to counter a fist of havoc? You don't! All you can do is suck it up and move on. Even jumping out of the way usual fails as the damage field seems to extend way above the Titans head. But I think as a Titan has to manoeuvre to a point in which they could be mowed down then I guess they've earned the one or two kills they tend to get.
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Only problem I see with FoH is when your way above the guy and out of the radius of its smash that your killed like come on when I'm jumping a dozen feet above your head there's no way I should die a tether doesn't hit you that far, nova bomb doesn't why does the FOH. I use a Titan and just don't get how I can even kill some people in some situations. It doesn't need nerf just something about the way it can kill even if your above the guy.
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First off, Titans have to be pretty dang close for FoH to kill you (maybe just outside OHK shotgun range). So you should see it coming. Especially if your team is gaggled together. Nova bomb is the same as FoH, except warlocks can shoot it from a distance. Where's the complaining about that? If FoH shouldn't be an instant kill at point blank range then freaking Golden Gun shouldn't OHK me from across the map. Final note: this is what you get for crying for HoS nerf. Titans only have two viable subclasses now that all the babies on the forums couldn't handle HoS.
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You jump real high in the air if you have the time and leverage You also jump backwards I've done it a few times. It doesn't work with Nova Bomb, so you just hope you live with that one.