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Edited by Quarantane : 1/14/2016 3:21:44 PM
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If you have a 1.0 kdr...

You're above average, it doesn't matter what anybody says, they're not thinking about it. Let me explain, for every single kill, there is a death, which gives a global 1.0 kdr. After that factor in suicides, that leads to a slightly negative kdr globally. So if you have a 1.0 kdr, you're above average statistically speaking, don't let anyone tell you different. Also, people that want to bring your kd into an argument that has nothing to do with anything are grasping at straws because they can't make a legitimate argument against something you say. Edit: There are people saying that this is to simple, that the mean average needs to be looked at. Basically if you take every players individual kdr, and then average all of them, I would be interested in knowing that number of bungie would like to do the work to get it, but I would still think this would work out to be slightly less than 1, if someone can explain how that may not be true I would like to know Edit: Adding this quote from Sixclicks, if this is accurate then it's still very close to 1 [quote]To add to my other reply and answer your question in your edit, the average KDR is actually 1.049424. You can get this number from Guardian.gg by looking at the average KDR of each subclass and the subclass distribution percentages. So these are the numbers: Sunbreaker: 1.06 kdr, 18.63% Stormcaller: 1.04 kdr, 8.76% Gunslinger: 1.09 kdr, 13.98% Defender: 1.01 kdr, 2.14% Striker: 1.03 kdr, 8.6% Bladedancer: 1.11 kdr, 11.37% Sunsinger: 1.01 kdr, 12.98% Voidwalker: 1.05 kdr, 8.27% Nightstalker: 1.01 kdr, 15.26% So what you do is simply weight each kdr by subclass distribution percentage and then add it up. So you get: (1.06 x .1863) + (1.04 x .0876) + (1.09 x .1398) + (1.01 x .0214) + (1.03 x .086) + (1.11 x .1137) + (1.01 x .1298) + (1.05 x .0827) + (1.01 x .1526) = [b]1.049423[/b][/quote] Edit: it has been explained to me that what I'm looking at is a global kill per death ratio, as opposed to a kill death ratio per player, which in fact may be above one if you were to take each individual players actual kdr, and average them in that manner you would wind up with a completely different number. I can see how that would work, and I would be very interested in seeing the actual average kdr per player, on a global scale. However I still say anything that is positive is good, you help your team in terms of killing more than you die on a consistent basis.

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  • I think a big confusion here is largely semantic, since there are two ways to calculate an average of ratios... one would result in 1kdr and one would result in higher than 1kdr because higher kdr's skew it more. Dont know why people are calling each others idiots about this. Its just a little paradoxical when you are dealing with ratios. This gets even more confusing since those numbers are usually close with a large sample size since one is skewed by the few extremes. If you are interested, google average of ratios vs ratio of averages. But either way, the more important point, which many immature elitists would talk down on comes from the fact that higher kdr skewa the average more. Meaning that most people are below average. Due to that, the more meaningful question to ask is what is the representative kdr for the average destiny player or the mode of kdrs. My uneducated guess is 0.9-0.95kdr. Most people are just more used to the idea of average so they ask about that even though it doesnt mean what they think it means. [spoiler]if you cant wrap your head around how most people are below average in this specific case, consider trials (or hearthstone arena if you are familiar, since its always 12 max wins and 3 max loses) with all boons and assuming all players finish their cards. You can take 7 wins and give 4 loses max. In theory, an average team will break even giving 4 loses for their 4 wins. A team that goes flawless(top tier team) however, gives a max of 1 lose but takes 7 wins. Thus creating at least 2 below average teams(bottom tier). However, 1 bottom tier team can not create more than 1 top tier team. Thus, statistically most teams are below the 4:4 average. Same applies to kdr but to a lesser extent[/spoiler]

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