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Edited by CapnMark:
1/14/2016 10:35:41 PM
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What is wrong with crucible lately? Skill Based matchmaking has ruined my pvp experience!
FInally a Youtuber (MorninAfterKill) who understands the current state of the Crucible!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrlJ-lObUS8
Has your K/D dropped ever since patch 2.0?
Yeah, this is all thanks to a so called "Skill Based Match Making." You'll notice every game has been a complete sweat fest and you have to keep up or try to win.
Have you ever tried to complete some bounties but can never complete them cause you're being matchmade into a inset sweaty game of full Last Word Abusers and 1k stares?
How about trying to go for that phantom medal? Nope, didn't think so.
Want to try out that new gun from the Gunsmith but get wrecked and can't find a single kill, cause you know sweaty lobby.
Are you always being put in a losing team, instead of a winning team?
If you answered yes to all of these, then you are stuck with skill based match making curse.
Reason why you cannot complete a certain task in pvp is because of Bungie's own fault for creating such a horrible idea known as Skill Based Matchmaking. I cannot find a game that is not so sweaty that I have to use thorn/matador to be competitive to save my life. It's so annoying, and honestly takes away all of the fun from the crucible
I don't understand the point of a Mercy Rule when it seems so arbitrary when it kicks in. We had a match 7,000 to 700 by the time the first heavy ammo dropped, and it wasn't until we were at 12,000 to 1,000 that it actually activated. Yeah it was that bad.
I've noticed ever since the patch, I've been stuck on more loosing teams full of incompetent people who don't know how to play, and I'm always at the top trying to carry a loosing team to victory, which at this point I'm getting fed up! I'm actually tired of carrying people in pvp matches. Why must I suffer being stuck in a laggy lobby or always guaranteed to be put on the loosing team which makes pvp less fun.
After 2.0, Bungie has ruined my pvp experience. Year 1 House of Wolves pvp was amazing! I was able to win so many matches, and because crucible marks were a thing motivated me to play more pvp.
And with the player pool being less and less, it is harder to find people in a match that takes like 10 or 15 minutes to find because more and more people are leaving the game.
Now I can't motivate myself to play pvp, it's so broken and I'm actually scared to just hop in a match anymore, that's how bad it is.
Disclaimer* I really don't care about my K/D and my medal score, I play pvp for fun and try new weapons in pvp for fun. So if your gonna tell me to git gud, keep trying bud!
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#Destiny
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I realized someone revived this post. This was a long time ago, 7 months to be exact.
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10 games lose 9 with only 1 win. Always on the losing team. I played without a fireteam. Thinking that matchmaking this time is better. But to my suprise it was worst as ever. 10 games with only1 win..... I got a good game nice score and run for the relic. But I'm m up always to a losing team. The K/d ratio is not effective. Iron banner is being done at a limited time its hard to make bounties if I cant win. Suggestion if a player who always score 2500 and up in 3 straight games then match them with players at this same scoring average. But players who cant even score to 1500 then match them all together. I played for 5 straight. I always teamed up with same players who can hardly make a score of 1500. Again K/d ratio is not effective because laggers are still on the game. Let laggers vs laggers, bad connections vs bad connection. Players avg score less 1500 /3straight games vs players avg score less 1500/3 straight games ..... Players 2500/score avg in 3 straight games vs players/ score avg in 3 straight games... What do you think bungie? Dont let good players always being pull down by low scoring players. Its ok in crucible to play with newbies or less skills but in Iron banners????please match properly again ... Lika I said Iron banner is on a limited time only unlike crucible. This is only a suggestion hope there are other better ideas to resolve this matchmaking.
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Edited by redflight06: 1/28/2016 11:10:31 PM10 games lose 9 with only 1 win. Always on the losing team. I played without a fireteam. Thinking that matchmaking this time is better. But to my suprise it was worst as ever. 10 games with only1 win..... I got a good game with a nice score and run for the relic. But I'm always teamed up to a losing team. The K/d ratio is not effective. Iron banner is being done at a limited time its hard to make bounties if I cant win. Suggestion if a player who always score 2500 and up in 3 straight games then match them with players at this same scoring average. But players who cant even score to 1500 then match them all together. I played for 5 straight. I always teamed up with same players who can hardly make a score of 1500. Again K/d ratio is not effective because laggers are still on the game. Let laggers vs laggers, bad connections vs bad connection. Players avg score less 1500 /3straight games vs players avg score less 1500/3 straight games ..... Players 2500/score avg in 3 straight games vs players/ score avg in 3 straight games... What do you think bungie? Dont let good players always being pull down by low scoring players. Its ok in crucible to play with newbies or less skills but in Iron banners????please match properly ...like I said Iron banner is on a limited time only unlike crucible. This is only a suggestion i hope there are more better ideas to resolve this matchmaking.)
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My KD has increased over the last few days, because of this match making, by forcing me into matches with players of equal or slightly better skill than that of my own, I am able to improve, both stat wise and game wise.
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You don't have to resort to the old Thorn/Matador combo to compete, you're just adding to the problem. Why do Bungie's solutions always create more problems?! If you want a good PvP experience, I'd suggest H5 over Destiny rn the Crucible is flat out broken and frustrating.
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1 ReplyIf they successfully create a good skill based matchmaking system, all players should end up with kd near 1. I'm sure this would be frustrating for skilled players who are used to stomping less skilled players (like me) but it should make the game more fun for most people, especially those with very low kd in the old system. The only problem I see is an increase in bad connections if they don't optimize for connection speed anymore.
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4 RepliesThat guys voice annoyed me too much, I couldn't watch the video.
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This too
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I don't mind the skill based matchmaking. I just don't like the lag! Can we just fix the lag bungie?!!! Yes, getting rid of skill based matchmaking may help with the lag problem, but I think skill based matches are important. Only problem is if you do not use thorn, TLW, or mida you're not going to win.
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To make it short: SBMM is... regardless if you live on earth and you're playing against gamers in a distant milky way that has the same skills with you. I love pvp and i don't care if i win or loose. But not to loose on a teleporting class which has no teleporting perk. And also the one that can kill you even if he's already dead. -- a new kind of self res i pressumed eyy bungie?
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I recently got a Phantom. Inferno Clash on Pantheon. Also hit an Unbroken in Mayhem Clash on Frontier. Those were just right place, right time affairs though. I do agree that since SBMM has been implemented there has been a mass sway in the way Crucible matches pan out. It feels peculiar yet deliberately manipulated. Watched a bundle of recent videos addressing this issue and there is a glaring problem that needs rectifying. I have many fireteam PVP bounties to do including the follow up ones: Prove Yourself in the Crucible; Impress Lord Shaxx to do too, but I just don't want to have my matches predetermined by Bungie logic, and have to grind the averages just to achieve something that should take a few matches but will instead take ten or more. Not my idea of fun.
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1 ReplyI always wondered why they call them sweats, but after the past couple days of rumble I noticed a big pool of ball sweat on my couch. Thank you SBMM for turning every game into ball soaking stress test. GG Bungie, gg
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hahahha matching u with people that have good connection. Ever since the 2.0 patch dropped, every crucible game i play has a teleporting red bar.
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1 ReplyJust step away for awhile that's what I did. Since the TTK fun in crucible disappeared. Crucible is so watered down anymore. Now that most of the noobs have obtained TLW or 1k they now feel like they can compete. It's still new and fun for them but that's going to die down for them just like it did for most of the y1 players. I'm not saying it's going to get any better but when and if it does then I will play again.
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[b]Has your K/D dropped ever since patch 2.0? [/b] Mine actually continues to increase. [b]Have you ever tried to complete some bounties but can never complete them cause you're being matchmade into a inset sweaty game of full Last Word Abusers and 1k stares? [/b] One factor not mentioned is the day and time that you play. Sunday night is the worst. Even drinking a case of Red Bull won't help you. [b]Are you always being put in a losing team, instead of a winning team? [/b] Not always, but quite often now. W/L has been in a decline for months. I don't really care, though. As long as the bounties get completed, that's what really matters.
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2 RepliesI've noticed that when I play by myself in crucible I tend to do a little better, is this because it matches u with lower skilled ppl than if u were on a fireteam? And sometimes I feel trials is easier (for the first 6 games) then doing skirmish. Doesn't really make any sense.
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6 RepliesEdited by Majora: 1/15/2016 2:09:16 AM1) Destiny has ALWAYS had Skill based matchmaking. 2) Destiny needs skill based matchmaking cause if it didn't, you'd be finding matches with level 7s with Khostovs while you are shitting on them with Thorns, 1k Stares, and Raid Machine guns. It's basically loot based matchmaking. 3) Yes, a game like CoD, SBMM is a joke. But CoD doesn't have RNG. Everyone has access to the same items. 4) Crucible Lag on the other hand (ie hit detection, glitched heath bars, overall lag) is a real problem that needs to be fixed. You have my side with that
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3 Replies"Sweaty players", the new version of try hards aka an "insult" to people who play better than you. Never saw the issue with trying hard, I suppose I'm not supposed to try.
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Prior to the 2.1.0 update, I was doing extremely well in the crucible and would finish most of my bounties within 3-4 games. Now post 2.1.0 update I hardly ever finish my bounties and am in games where I consistently have to use the guns the current meta favours. I really liked the time when I could use any gun in the crucible, whether it was a pulse/scout/hand cannon/auto and do well with it. But now it feels like I have to play with either TLW, Thorn, 1000 yard stare to do okay. I wish there was a ranked playlist for the competitive players and a social playlist for the people who just want to have a relaxing fun time in the crucible.
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I truly like the matchmaking just don't like the lag that came with it. I get the bounties part but personally I like to play other good players and not beat up on blueberries all the time.
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I love matchmaking that puts good players against each other instead of a good team and a team of idiots. I don't really use TLW on maps like widow's court, frontier, etc. because it isn't consistently effective (why people try so damn hard cross map with one is beyond me). But it is noticeable in a lot of these games because of high ttk and is effective, opposed to difficult to aim hc's (also little accuracy) and auto's now being classified as "close range" when you can't beat someone using TLW with average aim or know how to take advantage of hip firing. If the meta were better, wouldn't be a big deal if other guns still had their damage *cough*häkkepulseriflesareabsolutelyuseless*cough*
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*ignores post and continues to ADS the corridor intently*
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1 ReplyMy KD went up in 2.0.
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Make a new account and play PvP. I did, and end up on 2 games a 45 K/D
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Funny story. A few weeks ago I started a match late at night after a full night of sweaty matches. The opposing team had 3 level 5s all in a fireteam. I'm thinking...finally I can relax...pull out my vex, my old ghaleons demise maybe even my fulcrum. The Match was sweaty as hell. Checked their profiles after three or so sweaty matches. All were making new characters and had medal scores in the 7 mil+ range. Lol.
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1 ReplyIf Bungie had dedicated servers, then SBMM would be fine (but optional). Because they dont, it just creates that lag. The Game is tryingto connect you with people across the world and regardless of your internet, the ping is going to be like 900ms.
