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10/11/2009 4:42:03 PM
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How to Read Your Service Record - Who are you as a player?

[b]I edited my thread to help people interpret their own stats because I can not read 200+ records in any reasonable amount of time. Read my tutorial below, read the interpretations I did make, then try to figure yours out.[/b] [quote][/quote] [b][i]My Tutorial on Deciphering Stats.[/i][/b] [quote][/quote] One of the things you need to ask yourself is if any of your stats are skewed. Do you play team snipers a lot? Swat? MLG? Are there any reasons your stats may be skewed? Make sure you take that into account. You can see your EXP per playlist by clicking on your Global Rank (for me it's a General Grade 3 graphic) in your service record. [quote][/quote] Your K/D shows how you fair against your level of competition, if you're a 45 in all your frequented playlists but have a 1.25 k/d you probably haven't hit your highest level yet. That or you're just a really selfish player. If you have a negative k/d it means your making a lot of poor decisions and committing to battles you can't win. Work on communication, listening is part of that, know where the enemy is and what they have so you'll know what you need to win in battle (usually a Battle Rifle, name makes sense in this context doesn't it?) [quote][/quote] So lets look at some professional service records: [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/halo3/careerstats.aspx?player=Aassault]Aassault[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/halo3/careerstats.aspx?player=NOX%20Cloud]NOX Cloud[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/halo3/careerstats.aspx?player=NOX%20D3M0N]NOX D3M0N[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/halo3/careerstats.aspx?player=tulegitimate]Legit[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/halo3/careerstats.aspx?player=TC%20Legend]LegendPimps[/url] [quote][/quote] First on their TOD is the BR that takes up over 50% of their kills. That's because coupled with grenades, melee, and team shooting it's the most efficient weapon in 90% of situations. It also keeps you from chasing, and when you're not chasing a kill your looking for another, which usually translates into team shooting. So if you don't have a BR percentage over 50% it means you're pulling a Braveheart and aren't being a team player. [quote][/quote] Second is the Sniper. If it's not in your #2 TOD slot you either can't snipe well, don't know where to position yourself, don't control power weapons well, or you charge too much. The sniper in the right hands can put down insaine team shooting and can single-handedly lock down a map. There's nothing like spawn killing on narrows to keep your team up in numbers. [quote][/quote] Third is Melee, part of the FPS trifecta that makes Halo's core gameplay so enjoyable. Any weapon becomes valid in CQB with the melee and it's the only area the AR makes sense to use. With a BR you only need to land 3 shots before the melee kills, 2 in MLG, so it's understandable how melee becomes such a desirable finishing tool. The problem is if this becomes your #1 or #2 you're charging in WAY too much and thus not focusing on map control or team work. Third place at around 10% kills (give or take a percent) is ideal for this. In cases like Legit who is an all around player who runs around the map taking care of business the Melee may be a little higher, but that's his position. Also note his sniper is right up there, but when you have Snipedown and T2 on your team it's understandable why he doesn't get the sniper often. [quote][/quote] Fourth for everyone is Frag grenades, they are one of your most versatile and powerful tools that most people don't use close to their potential. With a well placed grenade or 2 you can displace people holding down map position, prevent people from pushing up on you too fast, clear out rooms, pre-nade a corner before passing through so you don't get jumped, and most importantly to finish those pesky one shots you don't have a sight line on. If there's a frag there's a way. [quote][/quote] Fifth is Rockets, they don't have much ammo but a good player is always looking for where they are on the map and keeping aware so as not to be blown up. If this isn't 5th you're either lacking in one of the weapons listed above or you're not realizing how important rockets are. Power weapon control can guarantee you a victory or let you clutch one like I often do. [quote][/quote] 6th or 7th is where you're AR should be, close to being tied with unknown. If anyone has any question please post them, it's the point of this thread. Make sure you're asking specifics though, don't ask things like "What's good team work?". Try to ask more situational questions. If you liked what you saw here then I suggest some other helpful material I have created: [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=37606543]BR vs AR Usage- Some Helpful Insight[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=36816450]General Halo Tips on Movement, How to BR, and Your Look Sensitivity[/url] [Edited on 10.13.2009 12:17 PM PDT]
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  • I wonder how Zach got banned? Surely not from this!

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  • I have a bit of a problem: I didn't see the text of the first revised post. Does anyone here have an copy?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Brawl Kirby [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Da letter L this is effective? [/quote] Where did I say that I care about that? I want to have fun while I play this game and I do everything that will make me laugh even if my team will lose. I don't care about some exp more or less.[/quote] Where did I say that exp and rank had anything to do with the effectiveness of rushing? Hell, I didn't say that "team A" would win by controlling the map.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Da letter L this is effective? [/quote] Where did I say that I care about that? I want to have fun while I play this game and I do everything that will make me laugh even if my team will lose. I don't care about some exp more or less. [Edited on 10.14.2009 1:53 AM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Brawl Kirby The way I play isn't focused on map control or powerweapon control anyway. I like it much more to jump into a big ambush :D[/quote] And against 4 players............... this is effective? The goal of Map and Power-Weapon control is keeping the opposition from gaining a significant advantage... which would normally give them the lead. Take Standoff for example; why would you rush in for an ambush when the opposing team will just take control of the Rockets and/or Laser, gaining at least 4 kills and destroying your Warthog. Boom. There goes your team's chance of taking a large lead, all because they with the option of 'rushing in for an ambush'. Now, in SWAT and Snipers, there's nothing to control and even then, rushing isn't really effective against players with the motor skills of a 15 year old imo. "Boom! Headshot! aw wtf?! I was inches away from him!" ...that about sums up what would happen in SWAT and Snipers if one team decides to rush. btw, you stole my tag :/ [Edited on 10.14.2009 1:10 AM PDT]

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  • Since I'm playing SWAT and Team Snipers I can't use your tut. The BR is only my TOD#1 cuz I played alot of Team SWAT and the Sniper is #2 cuz I like to play some Team Snipers. I usally don't use the sniper in normal team matches cuz I'm bad with it and I don't want to be betrayed all the time just cuz I have it. Same with the rockets my teamates always want it so I just help them to get it. I only use these weaps if no one on my team takes it. The way I play isn't focused on map control or powerweapon control anyway. I like it much more to jump into a big ambush :D

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  • Just went through you guide and noticed a few things when in comparison to my own stats. -My sniper is 3rd not 2nd, although this is because 90% of the time I pass up the sniper to someone I [i]know[/i] is better at it than me. -Frag grenades are 8th instead of 4th, I guess I need to utilise them more, normally I just use them to no shield so I can clean up with a BR. -You mention K/D vs Highest Skill, well my Highest skill is only 32, yet I 95% of the time party up with Brigadiers and as a result play against Colonels/Brigs/Generals most of my games, so if anything, my stats are a result of play against the 40-50 level range as opposed to the 25-35 range my highest skill would imply. However it is a good guide, and I would appreciate any specific feedback you would have against my service record.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SilentStorm20 [/quote] This is idealistic, rather than realistic, thinking. In reality, the best team is made up of people who can do everything. Sure, some people may have better skills with a sniper or a vehicle, but everyone can BR, everyone can play an objective, and everyone can use a power weapon. Having a "vehicle specialist" or a "stealth" specialist is not very useful, as opportunities to use those skills seldom arise in the average game. For the majority of most games, those players are hurting the team by being good at something that isn't needed, and being bad at things that are most useful most often. If your TOD is a spiker and you do well in games, then you could still be doing better using a BR. Some weapons are simply more effective in more situations than other weapons, and as long as you have basic aiming skills, you might as well use the better weapon (yes, I'm talking about the BR here). All of the hypothetical situations you describe can be dealt with by a team of good, non-specialized players: [i]>>having a team that is all longrange may get you lots of kills but what if a warthog comes by and theres no anti vehicle specialist to take it out?[/i] If your team is good with their BRs, then they probably won the opening rush. If they won that rush, then somebody has the laser. If your team has the laser, then that warthog is not a threat. [i]>>Or what if the enemy flag is heavily guarded by a skilled team and theres no one sneaky enough to take it and theres no one who can drive to saftey while dodging the splazers?[/i] A "skilled team" will not allow a capture in this way. The best way to cap on a skilled team is to simply win a few BR battles, put them on respawn, and run a quick cap when you like your position.[/quote]QFT

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  • I'm a 15 year-old who spends too much time on his Xbox. I'm a leader; but also a follower. I respect others only when they respect me. I hate egotistical jerks who spend their times insulting others over video games. I am also an Athiest who believes his girlfriend is an angel. [Contradiction? And yes, it's irrelevant.] That's who I am as a player.

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  • Just in case it hasn't been mentioned, team SWAT will skew BR use. I rarely use the BR because i simply hate it in normal games, but i play SWAT more often.

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  • While normally I would avoid clearly hate-flame threads like the plaque, I'm wearing my masochistic hat today, so why not? I'll even give you a hand. [url=http://halocharts.com/index.php?player=Paragon Fury&cb=29993] Here's my Halo Charts page [/url][url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/halo3/careerstats.aspx?player=Paragon Fury] and my Halo 3 Service Record[/url].

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  • All your doing is describing your profile to make you look good. Don't critisise other people until your the top level in the playlist yourself.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zach The One Don't be afraid of change[/quote] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm3j3pyd_VA]We keep on waiting (waiting), waiting on the world to change[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zach The One [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fife1100 Honestly this thread made me mad... first of all it is basically saying, if you don't use the br you suck and don't communicate, second is the Sniper well if this isn't your 2nd TOD you must suck with it. None of those things make the slightest sense sure the weapons may be good but what about the competitive casual player like myself who likes to get a positive k/d but plays the game for fun.[/quote] It makes sense you just haven't experienced that type of gameplay. Don't be afraid of change, I'm here to help break down what makes top players on top. If you want to play a different way then great, go for it, but you wont be playing to the best of your ability.[/quote] No I am playing to the best of my abilities unlike you and most MLG'rs I take diversity greatly in games and take in great Joy from them. you are just saying in a polite way OMG YOUR NOT MLG U SUCK BK BK BK. [Edited on 10.13.2009 10:07 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fife1100 Honestly this thread made me mad... first of all it is basically saying, if you don't use the br you suck and don't communicate, second is the Sniper well if this isn't your 2nd TOD you must suck with it. None of those things make the slightest sense sure the weapons may be good but what about the competitive casual player like myself who likes to get a positive k/d but plays the game for fun.[/quote] It makes sense you just haven't experienced that type of gameplay. Don't be afraid of change, I'm here to help break down what makes top players on top. If you want to play a different way then great, go for it, but you wont be playing to the best of your ability.

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  • Zach, I've messaged you before about how to improve my game and it helped!

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  • So... I'm bad cause I melée before snipe which will change in a bit, and rockets infront of nades? Many times nades are used to block places on a map or to make a player 1 shot not to finish a kill.

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  • Honestly this thread made me mad... first of all it is basically saying, if you don't use the br you suck and don't communicate, second is the Sniper well if this isn't your 2nd TOD you must suck with it. None of those things make the slightest sense sure the weapons may be good but what about the competitive casual player like myself who likes to get a positive k/d but plays the game for fun.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bleed4m3 Interesting thread... the problem lies with players like , though. Your readings really aren't going to give an accurate depiction of what kind of player I am. If you look at my K/D, as of now it is garbage... the key is it's going UP, not staying the same, not going down... and this is as I'm starting to play against the upper-tier players (I'm ranked above 30 in all playlists except Team Mythic because it's new, and ranked 40 in TS, Lone Wolves, Snipers, and Doubles, and a 41 in Squad Battle). The stats don't show what's important about me; I'm EVOLVING. So cool thread, but it really only works for static players.[/quote] Well by looking at your TOD I can see you're a decent player but don't see too far beyond yourself. You still don't control power weapons enough or have teamwork, so to me that shows someone who's starting to get it, but not yet there. So improving definitely matches your stats, I barely take the k/d into account. Note the one paragraph for k/d and 5 paragraphs for TOD list.

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  • Interesting thread... the problem lies with players like , though. Your readings really aren't going to give an accurate depiction of what kind of player I am. If you look at my K/D, as of now it is garbage... the key is it's going UP, not staying the same, not going down... and this is as I'm starting to play against the upper-tier players (I'm ranked above 30 in all playlists except Team Mythic because it's new, and ranked 40 in TS, Lone Wolves, Snipers, and Doubles, and a 41 in Squad Battle). The stats don't show what's important about me; I'm EVOLVING. So cool thread, but it really only works for static players. [Edited on 10.13.2009 7:38 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi Do me Zach! =D[/quote] Ewwwwwwwww. Anyways, you can do my stats... but tell me how I can become a better BUNGLE player![/quote] Perv. :)

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  • WHERES MY EVALUATION FOURN THE ONE WANTS AN EVALUATION NAO

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zach The One [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ES Charon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FataI ZT1 I'M STILL WAITING. I POSTED ALLLLLLLL THE WAY ON PG. 4. HURRY, I'M DYING OVER HERE![/quote] I was 8th in line zach come on =( =([/quote] Your reading is on like page 2 or 3 Charon lol[/quote] Man i totally missed that. lol Thanks for that, that is pretty true wat ypu said, no disagreements there. thanks mate

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  • will you still be giving out readings? I honestly can't figure out if it's overall a good or bad service record and what my main problems are. I looked at your other advice and you say "do this more" and I'm like "hmmmm, maybe that's me" then you say to another person "do do this is as much" and I'm like "that's also me...but wait I'm contradicting myself there because I just told myself to do this more". Edit: I'm also afraid of making biased reports of myself, and I value an opinion of a 3rd party more than my own. [Edited on 10.13.2009 5:03 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] electrric [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cowleyad Is this a trick to find every insecure player out there? Why in God's name do we care what your "readings" say?[/quote] Its not that we are insecure. It is that we are interested in finding out what we are doing wrong from a 3rd person perspective. In most cases, others can point out your flaws easier than you can. Also, if you dont know what the problem is, how can you change it? But, we must take these readings as an opinion and as helpful advice. Everyone sees things differently.[/quote] Completely untrue. Development and improvement comes from inner-struggle. It comes from constantly going against [i]yourself[/i], questioning [i]yourself[/i]. Nothing external can do this. Your thoughts are deeply intimate, no one can see things the way you do. This is completely personal. Each person does this differently. No "third-party" could even come close to this. You follow or lead. What would you like to do?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fredfredbug4 In my opinion your top TOD's shouldn't be what people tell you they should be but they should be what YOU get the most kills. If your number one TOD is a Spiker, thats fine. Your getting lots of kills with it and thats what matters. Sure you may not be good at the BR or sniper but thats what teams are for. A good team will have members that specialize in the following catagories. CQB Long range combat (snipers and BR's) heavy weapons stealth vehicles having a team that is all longrange may get you lots of kills but what if a warthog comes by and theres no anti vehicle specialist to take it out? Or what if the enemy flag is heavily guarded by a skilled team and theres no one sneaky enough to take it and theres no one who can drive to saftey while dodging the splazers? [/quote] Having specialists is definitely the wrong way to go. Sure, if having an AR as your TOD gets you the most kills, that's fine but you should be smart enough to recognize when its getting you kills BUT your K/D is still below average and a good player comes in and tells you what to do in order to raise that ratio and thus, benefit your team and yourself. A refusal to improve is just another example of someone being a bad teammate, you might as well grenade yourself in a corner for all the good you'll do against people who actually choose to open up and understand tactics and proper weapon usage.

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