Both roll 1 and 3 this week are great for the Cocytus SR4 for PVE. [b]Roll 1 : [/b] * Spark, [b]Flash[/b], impulse * [b]Triple tap[/b] * [b]Rifled barrel/Quickdraw[/b] * [b]Firefly[/b]/underdog [b]Roll 3 :[/b] * Spark, [b]Torch[/b], Impulse * [b]Rescue mag[/b] (pretty high chance to refill the magazine when healthbar is red, can proc while weapon is stowed) * [b]Extended mag[/b] (increases base mag size from 12 to 16), Rifled barrel * [b]Firefly[/b], Eye of the storm [b]Roll 1[/b] has the exact same perks as hung jury in the first and 3rd slot but the impact is a bit higher and you can choose quickdraw for better aim down sights/ready speed or rifled barrel for more range/aim assist (but you will have slightly slower reload as a result). I quite like the target highlighting on hung jury (it highlights targets but only at the optimal combat range). The Flash scope available on the Cocytus SR4 this week also highlights targets (but at any range). You can get up to 5 bonus shots in the mag from triple tap if you hit all precision shots (helps with the base mag size of 12). [b]Roll 3[/b] will get you more in the mag with extended mag , but no triple tap (this is fine because you have more in the mag at base with extended mag = 4 extra bullets regardless of precision shots, AND you will get more bullets from rescue mag). The torch sight gives extra AA as well which is great. If you really like the highlight scope, maybe grab roll 1. If you want a larger mag more consistently with the added benefit of rescue mag with a scope that gives bonus AA, grab roll 3. [b]Overall compared stats comparison[/b] - Cocytus SR4 has higher base impact and aim assist. Hung jury has higher base RoF, stability, and magazine. The lower RoF of the Cocytus SR4 means it doesn't need as much stability as hung jury because it will have more time to recenter betwen shots. The higher impact also means you can one shot more things, so it will be more efficient in terms of ammo usage. For example, Cocytus can one shot acolytes in the hard raid with a head shot at 318+ during totems and warpriest (it may leave them with a sliver at golgoroth). Hung jury can not (even at 320). [url=http://db.planetdestiny.com/items/view/3491886957]Cocytus SR4[/url] * Rof: 27 * Impact :[b] 61[/b] * Range : 74 * Stability : 44 * Reload : 59 * Magazine : 12 base (16 with extended) * Aim assist : [b]39[/b] * Equip speed: 69 * Recoil direction: 60 [url=http://db.planetdestiny.com/items/view/1475134443]Hung jury SR4[/url] * Rof : [b]37[/b] * Impact : 48 * Range : 72 * Stability : [b]63[/b] * Reload : 75 * Magazine : [b]16 base, (20 with extended)[/b] * Aim assist : 26 * Equip speed: 66 * Recoil direction: 80 [b]For the sake of completeness, here is roll 2 (icarus is a waste on a scout rifle but handlaid stock and firefly are both good) :[/b] * Candle, Flash, Impulse * Icarus * Snapshot, Hand laid stock * Firefly, Eye of the storm This roll will have more stability than 1 and 3. [b]Reminder about the hung jury roll from the dead orbit vendor:[/b] * Candle, torch, signal * triple tap * extended mag/handlaid stock * Firefly/underdog I'm debating getting one, three or both personally, but I'd like to pick one to save one roll for another week. If anyone gets one or three and tries it in the raid, I'd be very curious to hear how it works out for you. [b]Ideal roll for this gun for PVE would be as follows :[/b] * Life support * Extended mag * Firefly If anyone picks these up and tries them in the raid please report back with how you like the guns!! Especially if you bought both 1 and 3! [b]Reminder for chirstmas noobs[/b] - you can only get access to roll 2 and 3 if you are at least rank 2 and 3 with the gunsmith respectively. You can do his test weapons each week to level up your gunsmith rep. You have to order guns the previous week (wednesday - saturday) then they are delivered on the next wednesday. If you dont like the rolls you get you can hold it for an additional week to get different ones. Edit: Lol that firefly is both an ingame perk and a networking error and the forum autolinks to it every time you use that word.