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Edited by Captain_Yankz:
1/6/2016 10:57:48 AM
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No competition in terms of weapons. When three weapons make up that many of the kills in Trials, every other weapon must be complete shit in comparison. In order to fix this, Bungie simply needs to leave the current weapons be, while buffing everything else. IT'S NOT HARD.
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Cannot just buff weapons all the time.. that does not work as well as you may want to think it does or would.
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Neither does nerfing weapons into the ground either. Buff to balance, not to make them OP again.
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They did not ever nerf any weapon in to the ground all weapons are still usable by skilled players. Just not easy mode weapons anymore as was before. The claim of being nerfed in to the ground are by the whiners that needed the easy mode of how easy the weapons worked before the nerf because they have no skill in the game without them.
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But their solution shouldn't be to nerf everything either. And Bungie doesn't test their game on other Guardians. They test weapons on enemies. This game isn't built on PvP. It's built on PvE.
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Edited by LordofChaos: 1/6/2016 3:39:27 PMSometimes nerfs are needed and have to be done to balance things, you cannot just forever buff things. It is tested on both, it is not just made for one or the other. It is not just a pve game with pvp addon... it never was or ever will be that either. and no they will not ever balance them all individually and separate form pvp and pve either. not when there are so many variables to make that near impossible because of weapon perks and armor perks.
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Bungie is lazy, that's why they won't do that. If they want a good game, then they would do it. Instead of having something that will potentially break one side of their game and have the opposite effect on the other. PvP might be fine, but while the community sits here in the forums and cries for nerfs, they are hurting the main players, the PvE players. If you think for one moment their development team actually tests both sides, you've got to be kidding me. There is no way, they tested their game to the bone, and let weapons like Suros, Thorn, and TLW not get patched for months at times. The Thorn and LW era were awful and it took them what, 6-9 months to fix? You cannot tell me that they test their game and still let that happen. When the Vex Mythoclast was absolutely destroying people in Crucible they were quick to fix it. Same with Pocket Infinity. Those two got nerfed to hell. I'm not saying Mida is OP. But it is overused and at some point Bungie will nerf it. Bungie steps in when something is being overused. What was it they said again? They don't want people to rely on one gun? Well it's happening again, and it's an exotic. It'll surely get nerfed. But instead of making other weapons match it, they'll completely wreck their game. Patch after patch has been nothing but nerf after nerf. They are ruining their own game.
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Edited by LordofChaos: 1/6/2016 4:05:54 PMHas nothing to do with being lazy it has everything to do with time limits and what is allowed within those time limits. PVE is not the main playerbase.. of this game it is only one side of the game... They do test both sides.. they do not just test on one side and leave it at that.... they don't test to the bone they don't have the time to do so.. they have limits on how long they can test things because it has to be pushed out on some things. they have deadlines they must meet set by the publisher. No company tests to the bone every aspect and every feature/weapon/ability of their game or ever has gotten balance perfect or ever can or ever will. NOT ONE game ever has been or ever will be. ruining it only because players do not like having re adjust how they play or adapt to the meta changes. which does not make it ruining the game by any means of the world. just crybaby players that do not want to change how they play ever.
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What the need to do is reset all buffs and nerfs. Go with statistics of the gun olny PvP is a tactical game where u use whatever advantage u can and for the love of God quit nerfing the Hunter subclass
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They wont and cannot do that either. for they cannot just balance based upon base gun stats either. Just because you want easy mode weapons and no challenge or not having to adapt or change or learn does not mean they ever have to do it that way.
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No what I want is that it just your skill that matters where you can take any gun based of its stats and form a stratagical way of fighting instead of just seeing one to two different meats only in PvP this is not COD
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But they cannot do that because of the perks and the fact that you have legendary and exotic weapons which drastically affect balance. And you can take any weapon and do well if you have the right level of skill to do so. skill is not just aiming the weapon and firing it. skill is knowing when to fire it and choosing targets wisely.and paying close attention to who is around. with the pre nerf weapons you did not really have to do that.
