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Edited by CrazyLincoln: 1/5/2016 10:25:05 PM
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Why do Conservatives dislike Obama?

He has followed the policies of Bush in terms of Middle Eastern affairs. Drone strikes in the Middle East are at an all time high. He -blam!-ing hates terrorists. He talked about closing gitmo but -blam!-, it's still there and in fact has deported more illegals than Bush ever did: "The Obama administration deported a record 438,421 unauthorized immigrants in fiscal year 2013, continuing a streak of stepped up enforcement that has resulted in more than 2 million deportations since Obama took office, newly released Department of Homeland Security data show." http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/02/u-s-deportations-of-immigrants-reach-record-high-in-2013/ Is it because of Obama care? The very fact that people in this country once were totally uninsured raised the cost of healthcare for all. When a person skips a $50,000 hospital bill the cost to passed onto the insurance company and in turn onto the consumers paying for the insurance. Like it or not, Obama care actually will save the country more money over time. I don't really see why Obama is vilified by the right. They think he's like satan or some shit. Gonna be honest. I think it's because he's black. Tell me exactly why you as a right winger hate Obama. Please.

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  • [quote] Gonna be honest. I think it's because he's black[/quote] Wow. Grouping all conservatives into racists. That is ignorance. I, for one, and socially liberal, but fiscally conservative. I do not believe that people should be able to have a good life without a job off of welfare. Make these people work for their money. Have public works to improve infrastructure, make places cleaner, among other things. There is so much tax money. Did you know the after you die, 50% of what remains gets taxed? You get taxed TWICE. Income and inheritance. I do not want to remove the inheritance tax, but that should not be raised. As for foreign policy, I believe we should fight against ISIS, however not get so involved that we interfere with the government and culture in Syria and Iraq. I believe in pro-Israel. Socially, I believe in 100% equality, gay rights, marriage equality, choose to abort, all that stuff. But to a point. Saying stuff like the NBA is racist is too far.

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  • Most people that hate him watch fox propaganda or some other conservative propaganda. If you look at his pros and cons then most people agree he is alright. He isn't the best president. But he isn't the worst.

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  • I've never seen so many walking Republican talking points together in one place before.

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  • Edited by SpiRits: 1/8/2016 3:44:14 PM
    Obamacare doesnt solve the true problem of healthcare. I work in the healthcare department and obamacare eventually becomes just as exspensive as any other insurance. And who ever said all conservatives like the bush admin.

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  • As far as Obamacare: It's intentions were good, but it was written so poorly and left loopholes that have made it decimate the workforce for employees. I work in a large casino for example. Prior to Obamacare, part-time dealers were able to work up to 40hrs if they chose to make as much money as possible. Now, they are restricted to 3 day workweeks to avoid having to even provide them insurance. Dealers are no longer being promoted to full-time and the workforce has shifted to a higher percentage of part-time just to avoid providing insurance. It's sad, because the insurance we have through work is much better than the plans offered by Obamacare. To make it worse, now those dealers are not only uninsured from work, but now they have to find a way to pay for Obamacare on less pay since employers are cutting hours under 30 per week. Unfortunately the law doesn't account for employer's greed. It has given them an easy way out of providing benefits. The amount of people that have lost benefits or are now underinsured vastly outweighs the number that has actually benefited from Obamacare. That's a fact the government doesn't like to show evidence of.

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  • Edited by Handsome Jack: 1/6/2016 5:34:03 AM
    Because he's a socialist and wants to control your money and your actions rather than just money like a normal democrat. He's controlling to the point of borderline tyranny. He's so unmanly that Bruce Jenner gets tips from him. As a libertarian, I believe in the people controlling the government and not the other way around. A society where the people control the money and their actions is true freedom. All of his "victories" have been menial, and small, and overall stupid. Gay marriage wasn't a pressing issue. I don't believe the government should even be involved in our marriages. Whatever you do in your free time is your business, not mine, and certainly not the government's. That's how freedom works. It's always one step forward, two steps back with this guy. Congratulations you gave the people a little freedom. And now you're taking away their right to defend themselves. His crap about how guns make us less save is rather ironic seeing that every single one of his guards uses a gun. I believe every sane, decent person should own a gun. That's the correct way to stop mass shootings. If it worked his way, Detroit would be a wonderland. Instead, it's being used as fake Fallout 5 screenshots. Bottom line, he's a crappy, lazy president who couldn't give less of a crap about his country.

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    • I think they hate him because he's black, foreign, Muslim, and socialist. Mind you only one of those statements are even partially true, not that it matters because when it comes to rhetoric; it doesn't matter if it's true, it just has to work.

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      • Honestly,I think these people are just trying to find fault with Obama. "Oh he shouldn't have done this","he shouldn't have done that","he has a personal motive for his actions". You know,I'm pretty darn sure he has done more for America than you have.

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      • I've got my problems with Conservatives, but this right here is why I dislike liberals

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        • Edited by Ifoote02: 1/8/2016 4:44:58 AM
          Who said conservatives really like Bush, they only prefer him because he was better than Clinton and Obama. Obama helped create ISis by recklessly pulling out of Iraq, allowing isis to come into play, he also helped liberals and rhino republicans supply them directly. He has given Iran nuclear capabilities without even getting anything in return(prisoners) he has released multiple gitmo prisoners which have rejoined Al Qaeda and Isis again. He has unconstitutionally put even more restrictions on buying guns. He helped supply Mexican drug cartels with weapons, killing Americans in the process. We all know what went down at Benghazi. He has used shooting tragedies as a publicity stunt to shove his agenda down our throats. His administration was just recently caught spying on congress(which is worse than what Nixon did to get impeached) The only reason he hasn't been impeached is because the media is a horrible machine that picks and chooses it's victims. [u]Shall I go on?[/u]

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        • Hes black.

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          • Its the "-d" after the name. They hate hillary as much uf not more for the same reason. Politics are polarized to such an extent now noone even pays attention to anything else. Diff letter on the end of your name and all you believe is evil and wrong.

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          • Obama hates terrorists so much he cant even call them by their name :Radical Islamic Terrorists

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            • Why haven't I muted Lincoln yet?

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              • Obama hates terrorists so much he's funding and arming them in Syria. Get the -blam!- out of here with your bullshit.

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                • Let me get this straight... When Obama deports illegal immigrants he is a hero. But when trump says it he is a monster? [spoiler]no I am not 14 no I am not voting for trump. I just think that double standard it ridiculous. [/spoiler] And I fail to see how forcing people to pay for Obama care when they are already barely floating above water. And raising taxes helps people in the long run? I fail to see how giving it to everyone actually helps them because now everyone has to have some sort of health care by law now. (Just a side affect of Obama care) And I know some people who had a better health care program but now they can't because of Obama care. On the plus side there are now many more who have health care for the first time. Oh wait a lot of them are illegal immigrants. (Note the a lot) To close i will post this link http://oliverdemille.com/2015/12/comparing-tax-plans-candidates/ But will probably get a lot of flack. (Again I'm not a Trump supporter but it was interesting to see how Trumps tax plan was the best for low income and the middle class) Let the hate begin...

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                • I don't like him cause he's black.

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                  • Edited by Redvikin88: 1/7/2016 9:02:51 PM
                    We're drawing a red line. Oh dang they crossed it and gave us the finger. Well we tried. Lets give Iran money. Oh dang they got a new missile silo. Well we tried. You can keep your doctor and your plan. Oh you can't. Well we tried. Benghazi was caused by an internet video. *wink wink* I'm tired now. Well I tried.

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                      • Anybody who says Obamacare is gonna save the country money is a fool.

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                      • Anyone that plays as much golf as he does and still sucks is worthy of scorn. - Der

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                        • I dislike obama because he has caused the segregation of race that is taking place, i dont remember hearing of nearly as many incidents when bush was in office, however when a black president is in office it just so happens that they start reporting "hate crimes" and "police brutality" and get the public outrage. Im not saying it didnt happen prior, because it did, Im simply saying that since he has been in office the liberal media has done whatever it can to outrage the public and get the black community in particular outraged. You notice that they dont report black on black crimes, black on white crimes, black on police crimes, white on police crimes, and white on white crimes. The only crimes that ever focus on race are police on black crimes and white on black crimes. I would also like to turn to the fact that obama is constantly trying to pass through unconstitutional executive orders that hold the power of a law (something he isnt able to do since he isnt congress). So that's why i dislike obama.

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                        • He hates terrorists? You gave me cancer

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                          • Hates terrorists? HAHA. HAHAHAH. HAHAHAHAHAHA.

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                            • He doesn't exactly radiate a "powerful" or "leader" character. I've watched a couple of his speeches on tv, especially the recent one on Isis. I didn't feel anymore content watching him try to act tough. Say what you want, but Obama doesn't really do anything special for the deaths of white people by black people. He should have never projected his feelings about the topic. Not a smart move on his part. You cannot acknowledge a single persons death without some repercussion. I don't agree with Obamacare, because no one should pay for some lazy persons incompetence. I believe he tries to extend his power a bit too far at times. Obama is nothing special and he never be.

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                              • Because he is a liberal

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