It's got to be painful to accept, but it's time for you to acknowledge that the attempts at "balancing" this game have done less to even out gameplay as they have forced a constant rotation of "must use" weapons. There are enough posts and polls up that you have to be aware that the majority of day one players are not happy with not only what you've done to PvP as a whole, but the devastating effects all the PvP changes have had on PvE as well. It's time to make this right and the only way to achieve that at this point is to reset weapons to pre-1.1.1 and start over. The uncalled for AR nerf of 1.1.1 destroyed any hope of any other weapons ever getting to stand out without getting ruined in turn. Without the massive AR nerf, hand cannons are never an issue. Without the hand cannon nerf, pulse rifles still have their 9%. Without pulse rifles getting nerfed, I could have finally used a weapon I loved this IB with MIDA. It would have been the first time in year 2 I had a weapon I truly loved and instead I didn't touch it all week because you made its users pariahs. This game cannot go on like this. Destiny has been a star-crossed game since its release. It's been beset by many issues from Lack of matchmaking, unacceptable zoo errors, horrible economies and gear drops, laaaaaaaaaaag, locked out content, etc, etc. But for all the problems, the gameplay was in--blam!-ing-credible. The classes were all stupid fun and the weapons were ungodly fun. So I have to ask that in a game built on the quality of the gunplay and the unique class play, you find the best way to improve the game to be to systematically destroy them? Seriously, every single fun thing that has existed in this game has been ruined either by not allowing us to carry things forward or through the sandbox team gimping any weapon remotely resembling fun. Maybe I've been harsh with the criticism this week, but I'm sorry, Iron Banner and Scouts were my two favorite things in this game and you've completely destroyed the fun in playing IB and using Scouts and for what? How many people wanted nerfs? Show me the nerf posts that have any likes. Show me the nerf polls that show more than 10-15% pro-nerf. We've spoken en-masse begging you not to keep nerfing. We told you that the only thing the pulse rifle nerf would do is lead to the nerfhearders going after scouts. You couldn't listen. So where does it end? You've made it clear that anything that gets over-used gets nerfed and MIDA over doubled the kills of the next closest weapon this week. So are you going to destroy the most balanced weapon you ever released in the name of over-use? It's time to end this madness. It's time to make this game right and it starts with making the weapons and the gameplay FUN again. I still can't believe I played Iron Banner and didn't have fun doing it. Please stop the nerfs. Please stop manipulating what you want us to use and let us choose what we think is fun again. Thank you. Edit: gallp13 asked [quote]What specifically do you want the balance team to change ? Can you list it in a few dot points ?[/quote] My thoughts [quote]First they need revert all weapons to original stats. Then they need put Fusion Rifles and Shotguns back to 1.1.1 stats. They need to apply the ARs damage falloff change from 2.0, but keep the base damage from pre-1.1.1 They need to reset Pulse Rifles to original stats and then give them a 5% buff instead of the 9% they originally got in 1.1.1 Hand Cannons need reverted to original stats and the given slight damage falloff a bit shy of Pulse range. Rockets need to stay at original values. Snipers stay at original values.[/quote] Edit 2: Song- Jane's Addiction: Ted, Just Admit It Album- Nothing's Shocking Shoulda put that in the video, my bad.