what does the scanner say about the idea?[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ZundayXx Its Over 9000!! people came with this idea earlier... ;)[/quote]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rorchach Wow, you are getting way to into this. all i will say is that everybody knows that spartens are better. it is fact, not opinion. also, anything that is said against this is wrong. THATS IT! am i right?[/quote] It is not fact. It is a personal opinion of the player. To me ODSTs are the superior soldier as they are non augmented and do just as difficult of missions as a Spartan with lesser technology. Please wake up from the stupor that the Spartan "Legends" have placed you in. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GOLDEN STRINGS yea what this guy said. sure odst's cuss alot but thats it. spartans are more advanced genetically and thats why they were chosen individually. not even all that were chosen were strong enough to live through the surgerys and enhancements. a spartan was obviously a stronger human at start than an odst. spartans are just way better in every way. people just relate better to odst's cause they are more normal than spartans.[/quote] 1: They are not geneticly enhanced or geneticly altered in any way shape or form. If they were their DNA would have been physicly rewriten. As this does not happen it is not a genetic alteration. 2: There were perhaps millions of people in the UNSC who have that spesific genetic marker. However due to budget issues as well as the labor intensive process of ID'ing every age approprate candidate in UNSC controlled space they were limited in their choices. The 75 initial recruites were all found within a very short proximity of Reach. Thus a cheeper operation. And even then they didnt get to survey everybody in that area as it would have taken too long and the project would have been thrown away. Is this really that hard to figure out?

The Spartan would walk away from the ODST whilst getting shot in the back with an SMG. Do a back flip, bicycle kick the ODST into the air and then head shot it with its trusty spartan laser.

spartans are better warriors, and are way cooler than ODST's. ooooooo a drop pod, soo cool -_- give me super combat armor any day

obvious post is obvious.

What a stupid question. ODST's can only do half the stuff spartans can do.

ODST(s) and the MC DID team up. ever play the level, "the ark" or "the covenant" in halo 3?

I would personally like to see the ODST team and Cheif team up. That would be a kick ass team. So much whoop ass I wouldn't know where to begin.

If you have read the books and still think that ODSTs are better then you are mentally retarded.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ZundayXx Over 9000 people came with this idea earlier... ;)[/quote] Its over 9000!!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MegaGangBang who.cares.dude.its.a.game.a.god.damn.GAME.you.guys.are.nuts.lolz.get.some.cookies.and.stick.them.into.MC's.ASS.or.ODST.well.i.will.go.OUTSIDE.now.and.meet.my.GIRLFRIEND.yea.GIRLFRIEND.you.guys.know.that?[/quote] Why post if you're gonna be like that? [Edited on 10.09.2009 7:58 PM PDT]

MC killed 4 ODSTs when he was 14. Nuff said.

right on!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ravengerpro why do people act like they have a life . even if they do have a girlfriend she's probably -blam!- ugly haha so get outside before you get internet bullied and mate avoid social encounters cause you'll end up in a physical one and get your skull cracked..[/quote] Well, actually, I use bungie.net as a place for humor in my spare time. It entertains me to see people whine and complain about things. It entertains me even more that they fume behind their monitor, not knowing who I am, and not able to do anything except put up words. OOOOOHHHhh...lol. [Edited on 10.09.2009 7:48 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] VautlingFrog [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ZundayXx But still. Spartans > ODST's. Spartans have WAY more combat training, WAY better equipment, Shields, Higher stamina, more melee power. Everything is better on them, thats why they're advanced infantry...[/quote] ODSTs are regular Marine infantry that request to be put into the ODST training program. They already have actual combat experience under their belts before they even begin their ODST training. Honestly they have about the same amount of training. Spartans are no more skilled than an ODST. The armor they wear however gives them a huge advantage over an ODST. With out the armor they are no better soldiers than the rest of humanity. But to prevent hard feelings about my opinion I give you this: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3jFTzhdZF4&feature=channel]Link[/url][/quote] [i]I'VE GOT A BIG BAG OF CRABS HEEERE! I'M GONNA PUT THEM IN MY MOUTH OHH YES![/i] On topic, Spartans are bigger, better, faster, and stronger.

OMFG!!! LMFAO!!!! that was awesome. " you know i was once surrounded by 300 hundred of the flood while looking for the Arbiter" thank you for posting that

the Spartans are psychically better because they are genetically enhanced super soldiers. also, you know they are better because the weak ones died in the genetic enhancement process. the Spartans are also better mentally because they went through rigorous training (like actual Spartans). they were trained (I am sure) harder then an ODST and marines, and better yet, they were trained harder when they were like, 6. there is no real argument here, becuse it is an actual fact (in the gaming/Halo universe) that spartens are stronger than ODST. they are war machines, where as ODST are just dare devil type volunteers. ALSO! watch this video to prove that some of the arguments are wrong: 1. they cannot get laid 2. they cannot live normal lives PROOF! [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wUq8B3HG3c[/url] [Edited on 10.09.2009 7:19 PM PDT]

Actually, i'm pretty sure it was spartans vs ODST in combat, not awesome-ness-age. But still can be argued.

I think a spartan could take out like 10 odsts if they all had sniper rifles and brs and the spartan only had an smg.

rorchach. good to know someone who reads the books has good imput. but in all honesty. spartans are stronger and faster that odst's in side and outside the armor. weren't they physically enhanced in the "mutations" that occured?

ODST since Spartans are "created" to be bad ass killing machines, when ODST just are bad ass killing machines. :D

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xx GazzRion 33 Actually they are genetically enhanced. But to perform those enhancements, the spartans to be must carry a special gene. Get your facts right.[/quote] yea what this guy said. sure odst's cuss alot but thats it. spartans are more advanced genetically and thats why they were chosen individually. not even all that were chosen were strong enough to live through the surgerys and enhancements. a spartan was obviously a stronger human at start than an odst. spartans are just way better in every way. people just relate better to odst's cause they are more normal than spartans.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] VautlingFrog [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RobInDantePose I have a feeling that you do not know what you are on about, good sir. Have you read the books at all?[/quote] Let me stop you right there. I have already had to purchase 3 copies of each book because I have read them so often. I have forgotten more about those books than you probably remember. And I have forotten damn little. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RobInDantePose Their training started a 6, they were pushed everyday to become the best they could be. They learnt how to survive on their own, as part of a squad, how to fight, how to shoot, how to do everything over the course of EIGHT YEARS.[/quote] Notice, regular Marines training them. So special weapons training. Nothing out of the ordinary for regular Marine training. In fact they used the exact same obstical courses and running routes as the rest of the Marines who were/are being trained at that particular base. The only difference is the length of training. With in a year each of those children were combat ready, just like any Marine. However due to the development of the augmentations (which didnt recieve their final testing before aplication in the first quarter of 2525) and the ongoing designing and development of the MJOLNIR armor system (wasnt even complete when they first got it) they were forced to extend their training time. This gave them alot of practice but no real experience. The one good thing that did come out of it was that they forged very close bonds with each other unlike other military units who have men rotated in and out all the time. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RobInDantePose Once they received their augmentations, they took a massive step up. Their teamwork evolved to the point where they developed an almost "telepathic" understanding of each other. I'm going to say, read the Fall of Reach. I can't be bothered to quote out of the book, I can't be bothered to explain why Spartan's are better than ODST's and better trained in EVERY SINGLE WAY. Fall of Reach will explain it in a better way than I could.[/quote] They were in "training" (more like reconditioning) for 5 months. That is due to them fully adjusting to their new physical performances. And most of it was spent in space on the [i]Atlas[/i]. And I am quite certain they spent a large amount of that time in the cryochambers. Please reread that book and you will find what I have said to be accurate. There are only two other major differences in their training in comparison to a Marines. 1: They went through formal schooling during training. Marines have already gone through that before they even enter the service. This can also account for a lengthy training time. Dont want an uneducated soldier now do we. 2: They are given training to pilot any UNSC vessel up to a Pelican. However this still can be debated as it may have been done during their active war time instead of during boot camp. of the two I find that the latter idea is the more likely. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RobInDantePose And it would stop you making a fool of yourself spouting nonsense :)[/quote] Just because I am not enamored by the "legends" of the Spartans doesnt mean I "spout nonsense". I do find them to be great soldiers, in their armor and out side of it. However outside of it they are basicly no better than an ODST in terms of skill and in alot of cases physical ability. Please keep your snide comments to yourself next time as they do you little credit. And as for the genetic manipulation, the answer is still a no. They were not geneticly manipulated in any way shape or form. There were a few mutations as well as accidents that occured during the augmentation process that killed many of them and left several others deformed. And yet again those "deformities" were documented side effects of the augmentations. They were not unexpected. The fact of the matter is in order to do genetic manipulation you have to go down on to a scale equivilent of a DNA strand and physicly move parts of the strand around to create an all together different compound. As this does not occur in the Spartan-II augmentation process it is not genetic manipulation. In the Spartan-III process there is a slight manipulation, however the term "mutation" is more appropate. It doesnt actually alter the DNA or genetic coding of the subject however it does enhance particular areas of the brain that allow more basic or "animalistic" instincts to be reached easier during times of stress. Again no genetic manipulation. Oh and before I forget, their kill record doesnt exceed all of the ODST divisions. I will quote: [b][u]First Strike[/u][/b], page 104 paragraph 4: ""Those 'freaks,'" Hood said over his protest, "have more confirmed kills than any [i]three[/i] divisions of ODSTs and have garnered every major citation the UNSC awards." (Thats from memory) [/quote] Wow, you are getting way to into this. all i will say is that everybody knows that spartens are better. it is fact, not opinion. also, anything that is said against this is wrong. THATS IT! am i right?

A Spartan would kill an ODST. ODSTs win the awesome contest though. Leaping up onto the back of a Brute Chieftan and stabbing him in the neck is all kinds of BA.

Spartans 100% all the way.

why do people act like they have a life . even if they do have a girlfriend she's probably -blam!- ugly haha so get outside before you get internet bullied and mate avoid social encounters cause you'll end up in a physical one and get your skull cracked..