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Edited by Must Have Gally:
12/23/2015 3:27:09 PM
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Should people who red bar be banned until they get a better connection? Or is it just Bungie's Fault?
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Not banned but just kicked out
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Not red bars, but lagging. Red barring and lagging are two different things.
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Two questions with only one answer, no to the first and yes to the second
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8 RepliesBan me for occasional bad internet that I pay for and I paid for the game. No you moron. Bungie needs to invest into dedicated servers.
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With a 500million doller budget. They should have put in some gawd damn dedicated servers instead of letting this PeertoPeer BS connection. What a 2006 thing to do. Dedicated servers and 1080p should be standard/default for both new consoles games. 60fps should be Secondary as long as it doesnt deteriorate graphics so it doesnt screw up the upscaling to higher resolutions. I. e 4k. But hey... Activision.. And bungie.. Thumbs up for stupidity.
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If Xbox live required a real connection and open nat lag would be less of a problem across all games. The problem is ppl have varying nat types and alot of ppl somehow play on 1 megabit internet. That's a horrible connection to game on.
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Some people cant afford better connection.
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Well you asked two questions so idk what to do with my life
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Lol idk how to answer this because it's no and yes
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2 RepliesWhen you get to play against people from the other side of the planet you will get lag and redbar. Played americans and South americans yesterday and im in Sweden.
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3 RepliesNot banned but they shouldn't be allowed to participate in any pvp event such as Iron Banner or Trials of Osiris or Crucible in general for that matter.
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In crucible there should be a certain ping you have to have in order to play but in PvE I don't think it matters.
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2 RepliesBanned completely, no. However, in a mode like Trials where wins are extremely important, they should be banned. Many times I have come up against red bars that can instant revive when their body is teleporting around the map. This is just unacceptable. In regular crucible it sucks but it's supposed to be played for fun not loot.
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Firstly red bar connections are often your connection to the user, meaning if they show as a red bar to you then you likely show as a red bar to them. Lag switching is forced and deliberate and is currently bannable. logging on and being matched up against someone the other side of the world on the other hand is just bad luck. If anything PvP should try to match people based on location first.
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4 RepliesIf dedicated servers were available we wouldn't have this conversation so no.
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I think a better resolution would be to just have the person with the red bar not able to join the match. Like if they choose rumble and when they hit launch, Destiny does a connection check first. Sure, it sucks for them but why should everyone else have a bad experience because of one person's connection?
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It is not always their fault. I have a 45mb connection and some matches I am red-barring. Depends on who get's selected as the host and their location I believe.
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2 RepliesI have such bad connection that I can only play Skirmish with a green bar.
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That's way too strict.
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I've got a hard wired connection to comcast's modem, which was just upgraded. I have a blast connection giving me 80 down and 30 up yet still red bar maybe 2-3 times per month. The reason is Comcast, who can't quite figure out how to adjust the signal for a community at the end of their line. Anytime we go from mild to freezing temps or have a lot of rain, we have issues. Comcast comes out and adjusts signal and I'm fine for a week or 2, then somebody ahead of me complains and the cycle is repeated. Fios isn't in our area yet so some of us have no other option except for satellite, and that's not an option for gamers right now.
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2 RepliesIf i'm being 100% honest and all...I don't think people with poor connection should be allowed to play online gaming period. And this is coming from a poor bastard who probably lags on occasion. Do I think they should be perma banned? not at all. But maybe like the game recognizes your poor connection and says "woah man not right now." Of course all of this could be avoided if every game forever forward uses both dedicated servers and custom server browsing. Battlefield 4 as something close to this. And it even tells you how good your connection would be to that match. Sadly I don't think this will ever be seen widely outside pc gaming.
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2 RepliesWhy does every other game work flawlessly but destiny lags? To be honest, xbox one had no networkissues for 2 years but ps4 has nothing but network issues or we're all stuch in space for 4 minutes and then 16 people spawn in at the same time in the towrt. Ps4 sucks
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No. You can't control it all the time. Would be -blam!-ed up to get banned even though you have great internet.
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No. But it's a mixed bag on why the person has a red bar to begin with. It's not always because their internet "sucks" and sometimes is simply due to them being thrown in a lobby they have no business being in as the host is entirely too far away (Bungies fault). If they are red barring because their internet sucks they should be restricted to lobbies of other red bar players but then they would need to do some sort of check before it even threw them into MM, which means more spent money, which means no it's not going to happen.
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3 RepliesJust group them with other red bars.
